Comments on: Mets Chat Room: Game #4 at Philly Edition.

By: Rick Carpiniello

Rick Carpiniello — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:23:50 +0000

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By: Steve (The Original)

Steve (The Original) — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:10:56 +0000

Church is back on the DL. Evans up.

By: Taylor

Taylor — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:30:39 +0000

Tiffany, I know it may be considered sacrilege but I happen to disagree with the booth on that one. Beltran had a very good shot at the out there.

By: Mike C.

Mike C. — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:12:32 +0000

I humbly thank Mr. Delcos for the web-page but…

Yeah, he doesn’t praise players under thirty.

He helps run ‘em out of town for showing enthusiasm…

And then we get a catcher who can’t hit and an outfielder with some kind of pre-existing migraine condition that makes him unable to recover from concussions in return.

Passion is the greatest sin imaginable for an athlete ever, Famous Ray’s Original Steve, hasn’t the NYC press rammed this idea down your throat yet?

We’re awful people for not wanting to pull Shawn Green out of retirement to play short, haven’t you heard? He’s polite and a Proven Veteran™ and he was a homerun hitter ten years ago!

He’s what the New York papers demand we love!

By: Steve (The Original)

Steve (The Original) — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:56:11 +0000

JD: How bout giving some love to Reyes for last night’s hustle. He’s been busting it since last week’s b.s. You are quick to criticize him when he is lazy. Time to give him some kudos for busting it.

By: Taylor

Taylor — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:29:17 +0000

It seemed like Wright was thinking similarly. He could have played it safe and just made sure he caught the ball and kept the runner at 1st base but he went for the out too by reaching for the ball and trying to bring it back in one motion.

By: Dan Gurney

Dan Gurney — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:54:29 +0000

Time to dig out the Bob Murphy recording from 1990. Taking 3 of 4 in Philly was huge. Now keep it up. Good move by Minaya in showing no interest in Bonds. Too bad both Selig and Fehr still have jobs.

By: Tiffany

Tiffany — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:43:36 +0000

As the broadcast booth noted, it was a bad play all around: The runner shouldn’t have tried for third; Beltran shouldn’t have thrown there; and Wagner should have been backing up the throw.

All that said, I don’t think the Phils come out of this energized by their eight unanswered runs. They still lost 3 out of 4 in their park (could have easily been a sweep) to a team they would likely acknowledge as their main competition. Worse, the Mets were beating them at their own game—the 16-hit slugfest.

By: David

David — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:29:08 +0000

Armas was horrible, Heilman was horrible, Wagner was horrible. Beltran made a bonehead play all very true statements, and all dont mean a damn thing. Bottom line if you are a mets fan is they took 3 of 4 from the first place who were coming off of a sweep of the Braves and had all the momentum after stealing game one of the series.

By: scoopcoop

scoopcoop — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:39:26 +0000

Both of these teams have alot of flaws.

I think the winner of this division will have about 85 wins. Which still gives the Mets a chance since 85 wins equates to 40-33 the rest of the way.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:16:29 +0000

If I were Beltran I would do the same simply because I had no faith that Wagner was winning that game for you. If I think i have a legitimate shot at getting the third out without Wagner, I take it the chance.

By: JB

JB — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:58:48 +0000

Taylor. No, no, no, and no.

Throw the ball into second, keep that tying run at first. The run means NOTHING and he took a unnecessary risk. If he didn’t see Wagner there to back it up then he should not have thrown the ball in the first place.

Bad move by Beltran.

By: Scott from Pelham

Scott from Pelham — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:57:42 +0000

The bullpen as a whole was terrible tonight.
Heilman giving up a 2 run blast to a guy in a 2 – 40 slump.
Armas did not pitch that well.
The question why was the pen bad tonight.
the first 3 games of this series were hard fought games
I guess the pen as a whole was tired tonight.
Be happy the Mets took 3 of 4

btw
I thought some people here were negative. After checking the Phillies blogs the negative comments here would be positive on their blogs. Phillie fans are real mean.

By: Taylor

Taylor — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:54:52 +0000

Again its not that the run means anything. Its that the runner foolishly gave them a chance to get the 3rd out and final out of the game. If the throw is backed up you don’t risk the runner getting to 2nd base. That only happened because the throw wasn’t backed up.

By: Taylor

Taylor — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:52:30 +0000

JB, I have to disagree most vehemently. Carlos throw was not bad at all. (Well it was not a great throw because it was 5 feet to David Wright’s left) but it was a very very good decision to make the throw. You have a guy taking a big risk trying to take an extra base where you have a legitimate shot at ending the game by throwing him out. Someone (Wagner in this case) is supposed to be backing up the throw. If he had been there he would have caught the ball and kept the tying run at 1st base and the force play in order. That Wagner wasn’t backing up was not Beltran’s fault. A very good decision to try to end the game by nailing the running taking a stupid risk.

By: Jay

Jay — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:49:15 +0000

Beltran should have never made that throw. That run means nothing. You need to keep the tying run out of scoring position. Beltran should know better.

It was big taking 3 of 4, but we need to ride a hot streak into the break. We cant keep playing roller coaster this season. We need to start playing well and this would be a great time to do it.

A win is a win, and thats what matters, no matter how lousy we feel about it…

By: Mike C.

Mike C. — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:47:18 +0000

Excepting sickening or season-ending injuries, name a win for the team you root for that felt worse than this.

Name it.

I sure as hell can’t.

By: JB

JB — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:37:48 +0000

Was that you John asking Carlos about his throw?

”...not that bad a throw…”?????

What color is the sky in Carlos’ world?

By: Josh

Josh — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:24:32 +0000

Big win, but that game aged me at least 10 years..

2.5 back, but again, they have to keep this up…

I absolutely despise Billy Wagner

As for this game giving Phillies confidence… I doubt it. They still lost 3/4 to the Mets, have lost 7/10 to them on the season, and as they say, momentum only lasts until the next game..

(Ex: Mets barely lose to Nats last year 10-9 after being down 10-3 in 9th, still get swept. In 06, Cardinals almost come back on Mets, lose 10-8, and lose next game)

By: paulunde

paulunde — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:22:15 +0000

If Wagner were no longer our closer, who would replace him? Maybe Joe Smith? Heilman? Sanchez? That would be interesting.

I recall earlier in the season, Wagner saying he hoped he be rested more during the season. Looks like now would be a good time for Billy to rest up. Wagner was virtually untouchable until mid to late June. Last season he also started to flounder around the midway point in the season.

I marvel at Mariano Rivera, as he does his job better than anyone else, year in and year out.