The Jerry Manuel era begins tonight. The question is obvious: Will things change?
tom I’m glad for you that you have something tonight beside this so called major league baseball team to watch. I just want to know when that Giant/Redskin game is?
Just when I thought it was safe to post a friendly, innocent joke out to another member…there’s Bob!
How’s it going tonight?
Glad you’re staying up late with all of us other Mets masochists.
can anyone honestly expect the mets to win this game- losing a manager- regardless of how good/bad the decision was- causes turmoil and a lot of emotion. it was almost a given that they were going to lose this one. as well as the next 92…
Gil in Savannah, GA,
Don’t get crazy, I didn’t take your post to be disrespectful. I know you man, your a good guy, your a die hard met fan like myself and a true blogger team mate.
BREAKING NEWS: MOISES ALOU HAS BEEN MOVED FROM THE 15-DAY TO THE 60-DAY DL. HE FRACTURED HIS INDEX FINGER USING THE TV REMOTE THIS AFTERNOON WHILE WATCHING THE OMAR MINAYA PRESS CONFERENCE.
tomg: right back at’cha, brother!
No, not Giuseppe Franco! Who else is going to sponsor that product that makes it look like they are growing a Chia Pet on their head?
Wow, I never knew pitchers could go more then 6 innings in baseball.
“Gil in Savannah, GA June 18th, 2008 at 12:04 am
BREAKING NEWS: MOISES ALOU HAS BEEN MOVED FROM THE 15-DAY TO THE 60-DAY DL. HE FRACTURED HIS INDEX FINGER USING THE TV REMOTE THIS AFTERNOON WHILE WATCHING THE OMAR MINAYA PRESS CONFERENCE.”
I love it, priceless man, just priceless!!!!!
Everytime they show this g-d Angel manager I have flash backs to the 1988 playoffs.
Hey, the good news is the braves, marlins and phillies lost.
The Mets still have a shot, imagine!!!!!
vargas is in the game thats my Q to go to bed. Good night all. Willie, where ever you are sleep tight the nightmare is over. T time is 8am, hit them long and straight.
Our kinda year: A dribbler up the third base line hugs the line. To make it go foul, Tatis should’ve done what Eliot Spitzer’s ‘ho did: get down on his knees and blow.
Time for some perspective here…or at least Black humor. Someone needs to start a poll…worst / most embarassing day in Mets history. I humbly submit my top 10:
1) 6/17/08 Free Willie Day
2) 7/30/04 a.k.a Black Friday – Kazmir for a Zamboni
3) 10/26/00 – Mets Lose WS to Skanks in 5
4) 7/27/93 – Brett Saberhagen sprays bleach at reporters in Mets clubhouse.
5) 7/24/93 – Mets OF Vince Coleman tosses Firecracker at fans in Dodger Stadium parking lot..gets 3 yrs probation for felony charges.
6) 7/7/93 – Brett (World;s Stupidest Man?) Saberhagen throws firecracker under a table near reporters…is quoted as saying “What are they going to do? Fine me?”
7) 6/18/1989 – Dykstra and McDowell traded for Juan Strikeout…err, Samuel
8) 6/15/1977 – Tom Seaver traded for a bag of balls
9) 12/10/1971 – Nolan Ryan etal. for Jim Fregosi…and a bag o’ balls.
10) 12/3/69 – Amos Otis / B Johnson (P) traded for Ken Foy and a tin of Redman dip (double bonus is that KC traded Johnson to get Freddie Patek!)
The above were in chronological order…I think I got the dates right…..
I haven’t decided for myself yet…1993 was cumulatively the most embarassing year to be a Met fan. Thank god I was out of the country in the Navy most of the time.
I’m beginning to lean towards today as being the worst…huge publicity over an amateurish move…new confirmation that the mets are owned & operated by circus clowns…a season of high hopes circling the bowl faster and faster…and the ever-present commercial face of the Mets / SNY : Guiseppe Franco in our faces nonstop. It’s like I took a Crazy Pill…
Remember all the warm/fuzzy glowing stories we heard about Omar and Willie and that even the Wilpons finally “got it” (har har…insert cliche here about old dogs and new tricks, etal.)? Someone even wrote a book about it…Omar saves the mets….Wilpon’s and Omar are signing all the big Veteran talent they used to shy away from….fast forward to 2008 and suddenly the rationale that the Kazmir for Zamboni trade was the final straw that “saved” the franchise by waking it up…insert manual buzzer—ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR—
As I drove home tonight and listened out of curiosity to Ma & Pa Pinstripe as they trashed the Mets tonight (for humiliating “their guy” Willie), as the Skanks were clubbing some loser… I couldn’t help but fear that this is really….”Back To The Future”!?
Count me in as another longtime Mets fan (four decades) who’s been reduced to rooting for them to lose. It’s the only way we’ll be rid of Minaya and be able to get the organisation headed back in the right direction. Manuel isn’t a “fresh start”. Dumping Omar and Tony would be.
The Red Sox are owned by John Henry right? I mean it starts at the top. I don’t think Omar is the brightest bulb in the circuit. He’s not the worst GM ever or even in recent Mets history to be fair. He’s done some good things. But he’s not a good GM either. What in his track record indicated that he would be? Nothing really. Wasn’t there talk of hiring Billy Beane away from Oakland? I mean the Wilpons must be stupid. Hey the have a lot of money so maybe they aren’t that stupid but they sure seem stupid to me. They don’t know s#$t about baseball. Really the basic rules of GMing are, get players coming into their prime, get rid of players while you can still get something for them, take players from other teams when they don’t realize their true value. Omar convinced the Wilpons to spend $$. That’s really his biggest triumph as GM. Pedro, Beltran, Wagner, Delgado and now Johan. But those were well-known superstars. Aside from that he’s really not done much that merits praise. Based on his track record there was no reason to think that he would. I think he thought that because he is hispanic that he could convince all the best hispanic free agents to sign with the Mets and that would be his secret weapon. What we really need is a GM with real talent for talent evaluation and team construction. Not a politician (good description whoever said it).
TomG—Thanks for your kind words uttered while I was getting my beauty rest.
If I may say so, your posts we’re all over the board last night: You went from saying Reyes needs a kick in the ass, to they can win the division with Church and Alou healthy, to there’s no change in this team. Personally, I think all three of your thoughts here are interconnected. A right-thinking Reyes, along with the return of their corner outfielders, should put them back in the hunt—but it’s not going to happen overnight, in one game.
All that being said, Manuel’s little confrontation with Reyes could be something of a turning point for this team. Looking beyond the shortstop’s theatrics, the subtle message may be that the inmates will no longer be running the asylum.
Well I was about half right in prediction of score (12-3). Santana gives a stinker and Mets can’t he Lackey (not that anybody has this yr)....
Maybe the 1950s glasses pitching coach can get the coin flip to flip the right way tonite….
The inmates were not running the Asylum under Willie. They just are not that good. Look, the fans ran Willie out of town. Omar did him a great favor by getting him out of this nightmare. He has way to much class to put up with all of this. There is no team chemistary, you can blame Willie all you want,, But, when players hit and pitch they win, when they don’t they lose. When Joe Torre won all those rings he ran the same 8 players out there all the time. Real geinus right? Wille has 5 rings, you think he may know a little bit about the game? Any good team needs grinders, Willie was a grinder, I think he knows what type of player it takes to win. This team is like the Snyder Washington Redskins of a couple years ago, lots of older players with big names with no heart to grind out a season
Breaking News: Omar Minaya has mafia hit put on the Wilpon family. The team is then bought out by Raul Castro and renamed Los Latinos. Omar is then given absolute power over the team and trades away the remaining minority of non-hispanic Mets for latino prospects. Willie was right this team was run off of race.
But seriously, some of these guys like Reyes need to get there stuff together. Reyes showed up his new manager during a game, and that shouldnt fly by any means. I guess when you take away a guy everyone liked its kind of inevitable. Lets just hope this team clicks and maybe a little chemistry suddenly comes out of no where.
I would suggest to many of you to take it easy (or Prozac). Tomg – I am not a prude but since this a sports forum you should tone down the language. Even though you don’t spell it out any kids that show up will see it and know.
Guv – I want to further apologise to you for jumping all over you yesterday. It was unwarranted. Won’t happen again.
I am probably not going to be coming back as much. This blog has gone from an upbeat assemssment of an imperfect team to just down right mean to the personell and players of the Mets. There were not not many thoughtful critiques (Exception – JD) in this blog last night and hasn’t been for a while. I have come in many times in the middle of a good win just to find the same stuff.
In ‘06 it was an entirely different place to be. People pulled for their team here, not bashed everything about it all night long. I am more an optomist. I watch every game and get enjoyment out of baseball and the Mets.
I am not going to lecture you on what you should and shouldn’t blog, your right to do how you feel. My right not to participate.
I used to enjoy the debate and trade discussions and all the other topics here. And I am not being polyannish, I really think that there should be criticism but just go back and read through your posts.
If I were a NY Met, and many of you, and the booers at Shea, were my fans? I’d leave the first chance I could. I mean who would want to excel for this?
I am not leaving with hard feelings. And I will check back in from time to time. I love JDs blogging but this is really bringing me down, thus my frustration with the Guv yesterday which was out of character for me.
THis is supposed to be fun. So I wish you all fun!!!
Sorry to see you go, but I understand – I’ve been here since the beginning of the blog as well, and John’s knowledge and writing are the only thing I want to see here now.
Thanks Annie – Always enjoyed your posts as well.
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What a planet we dwell in! It just exhibits us all up to the fools we are…
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