Mets Chat Room: On the Left Coast again.
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Not covering the AL anymore, Anaheim is one of the places I miss. Toronto and Seattle, too. And, Cleveland because it is home. This could be one of the nicest parks in the majors. A real garden spot. You were a little closer to the field before the renovation. And, the old park had a Cinnabon stand right below the press box. A far better smell, I might add, than anything at Shea or Yankee Stadiums.
We’re about 45 minutes away and everybody is here, but Omar Minaya. Like the Church thing, the Mets have butchered this. If the Mets were 15 games below .500 and the players weren’t hustling, then do it. They are two games below.
I have never thought firing the manager was the answer, but we’re sure to hear it again this series. Afterall, the Angels have the second-best record in the majors so them winning a couple isn’t unrealistic to assume.
I hope you stick with us in the late hour. Take care.
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Please fire Alomar (worst 3B coach I have ever seen), Peterson, and HoJo…..
Texas Cage Death Match:
Omar “The Butcher” Minaya versus Rick “The Jacket” Peterson.
Film at 11.
I think Willie and Omar should get until the end of the season before they are fired together, but half of this staff (Alomar, Peterson, and HoJo) should go immediately. They don’t pitch or hit well (Peterson and HoJo’s responsibility) and they get thrown out at home or are held up when they should be trying to score (Alomar is sooooooooooooo indecisive).
Firing the owner’s son would be a better solution.
Hey, John! Welcome back to SoCal.
Gotta hit Panda Express at the stadium (go for the orange chicken bowl over low mein noodles).
Just as I was about to comment on how timidly the Mets were playing this top of the first, Jose Reyes makes something happen and then Beltran blasts a bomb.
But I don’t expect the Mets to win any of these games (I hope I’m wrong). The Angels are actually a National League team in American League uniforms. I love the way Mike Scioscia has managed that club.
A nice start tonight. Speed and power puts Mets up two zip. Lets hope big pelf can keep up the nice pitching.
Now Chone Figgins…
I was hoping six years ago the Mets would’ve gone after him to play second base…
Hey, Ray.
How’s it going?
As I said in my earlier post, this Mets lead will be very short-lived. Trust me. I’ve watched this team play for years. They’re about as resourceful as they come.
It didn’t matter because the chop was so high but how come no one was at first for Itsirus? But Wright redeems it with a good cut off to catch Itsirus at second. Guess I can’t complain about bad mental mistakes as I thought I could when I started typing.
Yeah, but as Ron Darling pointed out, Marlon should have been throwing the ball to second, rather than third.
Too bad Willie makes the Mets play AL ball. If he played NL ball Reyes just might have stolen third base!
John: I take back the recommendation for Panda Express as first choice. I see there’s a Ruby’s Diner in left field. Get someone to grab you a Bleus Burger, fries and a black cherry shake. Ruby’s has the best burgers in SoCal—and don’t let anyone tell you In-N-Out is better!
The new hitting coach is already paying dividends.
Guv: Reyes DID steal third. Scored on the subsequent wild throw. Did you mean Marlon Anderson?
Gil: No problem. If you’re here stop by and say hello. I will do the Ruby’s for dinner tomorrow.-JD
Gil, Are the Angels undefeated? I was under the impression they couldn’t even take a series from the very damaged Braves.
Dan: We were talking about it up here. Delgado should have been on the bag, but even so, I don’t think the throw would have gotten him.-JD
BTW: Omar has not made an appearance.-JD
Hi Gil, Guv and I had a Willie discussion on another thread, that what his line was about. Hey, Guv, Did you read my last post there? Its not about running. Guys like Reyes and Ricky Henderson are going to run no matter what league they are in.
Gil, I wont get my hopes too high, but I can see them winning this one. Pelfry is going to be a good one.
Ten more days…
Pelfrey real hustled to first to take the throw from Delgado who ranged far to his right to catch the grounder. I’, really starting to like this kid. To think a few months ago I was wondering if he was still worth keeping.
Way to go Carlos, Keep adding on runs.
Tiffany, whats in ten days?
Hey, John. I’m back down in Georgia now, but I’ve seen many games at the Big A and just feel a little homesick for SoCal. I’ve got some Mets fan friends of mine at the game, though—a buddy from Fullerton, another from LA and one from San Diego who made the trip tonight.
I’ll call my Fullerton friend and get a tip on a BBQ joint in Orange County for ya!
Guv and Ray: Sorry to step on your inside joke!
Guv: Angels aren’t undefeated, but they’ve got the second best mark in the AL and they hustle the most of any team in baseball. They’ve got serious talent. I wish the Mets had gone after Torii Hunter in the off-season and gotten him to play left field, or tried prying Chone Figgins loose to play second base.
I am trying to find out who the guys are wearing the Met uniforms tonight.-JD
I read your post. I disagree. This team hits and runs a lot. Its too bad the hitters can’t hit the ball in fair territory. The hit and run with Castillo and he fouled the basll off. Did you miss it? Willie doesn’t use the wheel so he’s an AL manager?!? Willie has rarely squeezed, not never. I was a t aPhilly game when he the great bunter Glavine squeeze and he missed the ball. He had Castillo squeeze early this year and he missed the sign or Castillo was on 3rd and the batter missed it. I forget which way it went. So when you do it rarely and the players don’t execute you aren’t doing it often. I think your problem with him prevents you from seeing all the things going on. And you can’t compare anyone with Valentine. Valentine was blaseted for doing too much, like the 1st baseman blocking the runners view, and the infield charging late instead of playing in. His moves were exciting but they never worked. Just kept me and you awake to see what was next.
Anmd as for Reyes stealing third with Wright up, I doubt there are 5 managers around who would leave the green light on. By the way the Seattles fired their GM. A new trend GMs vice managers get the axe. Maybe Omar will be the 3rd. More and more owners see the GMS put the lousy players on the field, altho the Reds guy seemed to have a lot of young talent coming up.
I think it’s the new coaching staff.
10 more days until the Lace/Stiletto’s Beach Party.
Has Omar been sighted yet?
Nothing gets by you Tiffany.-JD
Tiff, you are a gem.
All this talk about Pelfrey making progress. This would be a good time to show some of it.-JD
Ray: No Omar sighting.-JD
Maybe with Kotchman instead of Hunter.-JD
No Omar? Maybe the Wilpons DID fire him!
Baseball Prospectus is sure to be on the story. They were so on-the-money with the Peterson story today.
Nice play by Delgado and Schneider. Sweet D. Of course, it didn’t hurt Guerrero had a mind cramp. Mets getting help from the Angels on the bases.-JD
JD, maybe Omar ate a bad hamburger.
He looked safe on the replay.
And, help from the umpires.-JD
My favorite stat:
David Wright in games the Mets win: .370/.460/.667
David Wright in games the Mets lose: .180/.284/.301
Wright is 0 for 3 tonight.
Think the Mets will win this one?
Gil, You love the way the Angels play? If the Mets had all those guys thrown out all over the bases, even Delcos would call for Willie’s firing.
Good one Tiffany. 10 days and the Guererro call. He would have looked so good as a Met. I guess that wasn’t Omar nor Willie’s fault!!!!!!!!!
Mariners fired their GM today.
Actually, that was Omar’s fault. He apparently screwed around when the Mets requested from him a copy of Vlad’s medical records. Perhaps if the Mets had received the complete records in a timely fashion, we would have never seen Shawn Green in the blue and orange.
Don’t worry about the Mariners—they hired Lee Elia last week.
Guv: Even though the Halos had two runners thrown out, they at least scored two runs to draw within one run. I love their aggressiveness. They force teams to execute.
Come on.
Do you really think our pitching will protect a one-run lead the rest of the way?
Gil: No on the one-run lead question. See what this team has done. It has made a positive guy like me have negative thoughts. Can you imagine?-JD
Has there ever been a Bavasi who has done a good job running a team? Why do members of this family keep getting jobs? It’s like how Peter Gammons is treated as this great source but his trade predictions never come true.
The MacPhails on the other had know what they are doing, as long as you could keep whiskey away from Larry (good luck with that).
JD: Just out of curiosity, do the Mets pitchers lead the league in hit batsmen?
2 on 2 out in the sixth for Pelfrey. Gut check time
Bavasi was bright enough to bring in Lee Elia, right?
Dan: He passed the test.-JD
Nice job by Pelfrey…
R u sure @ Omar and Vlad? I thought it was on Duquette.
Gil: Yes they are. They passed Arizona tonight.-JD
OK … how many of you thought Alomar was going to send Chavez on that play? C’mon, a show of hands.-JD
Guv: It was Duquette.-JD
Omar was the Montreal GM, and he reportedly wasn’t forthcoming about Vlad’s medical records. Theoretically, he might not have wanted Vlad to land with an NL East opponent.
Another example of how passive baserunningmay come back to bite the Mets…why didn’t Endy ever run? A running start may have scored him from first on Reyes’s double.
Do we really want Castillo up with men on second and third? Any team will play its infield in in that sitaution, knowing Castillo isn’t likely to drive the ball anywhere.
And why would any team change pitchers to face a slap hitter like Castillo?
So nice to be wrong!
This is becoming such a nice farewell party for the coaches.
This is whats been missing all year. Add on runs. YES
Gil: It’s hard to imagine even the Mets blowing a five-run lead.-JD
Add on runs are so awesome….
And Kotchman just pulled a Delgado…
I dont know why everybody hates on Castillo. Hes a throwback. I like him.
Wow.
What’s gotten into these guys?
Scoring tack on runs?
Yaking the extra base?
Strong situational hitting?
Good starting pitching?
Crisp defense?
Where was all that in April, May and the first part of June?
Can the bullpen do its job?
JD: Blowing a four-run lead after Santana pitched a seven-inning masterpiece was hard to imagine, too, until it happened.
The team is playing inspired to save Tom Nieto’s job. They realize the have the best catching coach in existence.
Time to go get Pelfrey.
Did it ever occur to Mike to toss over to first with Kendrick running on SIX consecutive 3-2 pitches?
Now that my sister in Seattle is retired (taking a year off) she can go to Mariners games and watch Lee Elia in action.
Dan: It’s better to HEAR Lee Elia in action via YouTube, where his ‘70s tirade is featured.
Now its time to get Pelfry. Tough luck, he got the grounder, but pitch count is up.
OK, Willie, as I said before, it’s time to remove Mr. Pelfrey. Thank you.
Nice Pelfrey; given a 5 run lead, and you can’t even get an out in the 7th….
There’s some (expletive) pros out there that wanna win. But you’re stuck in a (expletive) stigma of the (expletive) Dodgers and the Phillies and the Cardinals and all that cheap (expletive). It’s unbelievable. It really is. It’s a disheartening (expletive) situation that we’re in right now.
I’m telling everyone…
This is not the team you want to let back into a game…
Tiffany: One word: Decaf.-JD
I am confident the Mets can hold a 5, no 4, no 3 run lead with 9 outs to go. And I am not betting a penny on it.
How hard can it be to get three outs before you give up five runs?-JD
Two revealing things just said by Angels TV announcers:
1)The Mets have led in 21 of the 35 games they’ve lost.
2)The Angels do the little things very well (Figgins’s takeout slide to kill a DP possibility.)
Evidently, very hard.-JD
I’m just showering you with a little Lee Elia…
Suddenly, Mike Pelfrey’s outing doesn’t look so impressive in the box score: 6 IP, 8 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 0 K.
Terrific… 8-3 entering the inning, and now it’s 8-6, with the tying runs and Vlad at the plate…
No MLB manager should have to work a with a bullpen this sh*tty…
I take back my post of 12:09 am. On the bright side, during this meltdown I get to see the Rally Monkey.-JD
only 50% of inherited runnners score against Heilmann? Now that seems as accurate as Enron accountants.
A note on the bullpen. It was hugely responsible for last year’s collapse and it didn’t get better. Willie, I don’t believe, is responsible for making trades or signing free agents.-JD
Pelfry needs an offspeed pitch. If he had a good changeup he would be awesome.
Who was that guy, and what has he done with Aaron Heilman?-JD
Heilmans change is filthy tonight. 2 big ks to get out of the jam.
Tremendous job by Heilman…
This perhaps may be the beginning of a good stretch for Heilman, considering his peripherals indicate he’s been very unlucky this season…
Heilmann actually does the job and gets Guerrero and Hunter out. It must be 2006!
Darren Oliver is still around? Like old soldiers, left handed pitchers never die (or lose jobs).
I disagree with you, John. Last year’s bullpen featured about 150 innings of work by the likes of Mota, Sosa and Sele. All three are gone, and Omar has looked to Wise, Sanchez and Vargas to fill those roles.
The real problem with this year’s pen is how bad Heilman has been (tonight withstanding).
You know i dont really know if statistics will back this up or not but simply based on observation the biggest problem i see with the pen is the lack of a swing and miss guy who can come in with inherited runners and get that big K. Too many guys relying on off speed junk that if they miss the spot will be hit hard
Tiffany, I merely said the bullpen hasn’t gotten better. Where has it improved? Wise is hurt. Sanchez is not there. Vargas has only recently gone there. I don’t see where it is better.-JD
Very disappointing. Three hours now and no visit from Giuseppe Franco.
At least I can dream about Ray Catena.
Tiffany, but you’re right about Heilman. He’s arguably the biggest disappointment this season.-JD
Jose Reyes, you are awesome.
The bullpen is worse than last years. Last year Wagner, Heilmann and Feliciano were much more reliable than this year. Only Schoeneweis has pitched better and who really trusts him. Vargas has been erratic and he just got there. Wise gave the pen a real break getting hurt. He would have made you wish for Mota back, and Sanchez is nowhere what he was before he got hurt.
Back to Vlad, if he wanted to be a Met and since he was a free agent it was on his agent to provide the records not a GM who didn’t have him on his team anymore. As much as I’d like to blame Omar for us not getting Vlad, I’m blaming Duquette.
BTW: A common thread to last year’s pen and this year’s pen is both are overworked. That comes from the starters not going long enough.-JD
No, it’s a common courtesy for GMs to provide their team’s medical records. Omar wasn’t playing nice with the Mets.
John—The trio of Sanchez, Wise and Vargas represents an upgrade over Mota, Sosa and Sele. Granted, Wise isn’t helping them on the Dl, but his acquisition did represent an upgrade.
ERA+ 2007:
Wagner 162
Feliciano 138
Heilman 140
ERA+ 2008:
Wagner 180
Feliciano 152
Heilman 71
Anything jump out?
This is why they are paying Wagner all that money.-JD
Wheeeeeew.-JD
It’ll look like a ground ball in the box score.
o my god here we go
Mets catch a break, line shot at em ball. nite all.
Wow. The bullpen actually doesn’t blow one.
Might be the most completely solid game the Mets have played all year. Let’s see if we can keep it up.
Thank you god…
Billy got so freaking lucky in that inning…
Mets climb past the powerful Pittsburgh Pirates to move to 7 games behind the St Louis Cardinals who will send out ace starter Braden Looper tonight.