Comments on: Do it … or not

By: Met Head

Met Head — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:16:26 +0000

I guess the whole league misses Bobby V. to since they havn’t given him a sniff for a mgr job. LOL

By: Ray Sadecki

Ray Sadecki — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:09:57 +0000

Guv, The Polish Prince loves you too. When I say Hes an AL style manager its not about the running game. Any team with Reyes is going to have alot of SBs. What I am referring to is always playing for the big inning. I dont see many hit and runs, squeeze plays, and moving runners over with bunts. Willie does not employ a wheel play ever, and there are times when it is very useful. Its just a very plain and predictable style. Yes I miss Bobby V. Who had a nice bag of tricks. He was never out managed by anyone and he had a lot less talent to work with.

By: TheGuvlovestheMets

TheGuvlovestheMets — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:33:09 +0000

I love you Ray. Anybody who pitched for the Mets is A-OK. I think you have /willie all wrong. No AL tram rns or has run as much as the Mets since Billy Martin in Oakland. At least not year after year. The Mets runners are on the move regularly when they have the unusual chance to be on base. That is not AL ball at all. We all know what Willie is going to do most of the time but when you root for a team not managed by Bobby Valentine that’s always the case after a little while. I think he managed the bullpen very well when he had pitchers a la 06. A good set up man, and then a good follow up set up man when Sanchez went down. A solid 7th inning lefty/righty combo and a strong long man. And even a good 6th inning guy in the stretch. When the pen falters no manager looks good. When the bullpen was obviously crap last year, he got no help from his GM, and they died. They lasted longer then they should have.
He’s stubborn. Then why did he use a million guys in the 2 hole until he got Castillo. Castillo is a 2 hole guy. He’s stubborn because he keeps Beltran in the 4 hole. If Omar gave him a 5 hole guy Beltran would improve his power. You gotta have the tools to do your job. The Mets on the field are flawed and I don’t understand so many in denial.

By: John Delcos

John Delcos — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:07:32 +0000

Hey, let’s not give Omar too much credit on Santana. The Yankees and Red Sox played chicken with each other and the Twins blew it by not taking the earlier deals. Fact is, at the time of the trade, the Yankees and Red Sox were out of it and those names couldn’t be gotten by the Twins. Hell, at the end, the Mets were bidding against themselves and I think they might have OVERPAID because nothing else was out there. To say the Twins could’ve gone back to the Red Sox is false. If it were true, why didn’t they-JD

By: Ray Sadecki

Ray Sadecki — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:55:06 +0000

Guv,

I am not bitter, I dont hate Willie, I dont like when the mets lose, and I am definitely not God. In my opinion Willie Randolph is a bad manager. I can see a pattern after 31/2 years to know how he runs a game. He is an american leaguer and it shows in his management style. He is stubborn and resistant to change. Change is what is needed here. This team is going nowhere without major changes.

By: TheGuvlovestheMets

TheGuvlovestheMets — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:24:57 +0000

Sadecki: You are so bitter…. did Willie cut you or something. Did you lose your last game because of a Willie bunt? You don’t have a clue what anyone would have done in a situation that never existed. Unless of course you are GOD herself. Are you ? Did you curse Willie in the 6th last evening Sadecki for winning the game? Do you get madder when his moves work or when they don’t? I suspect some of you Willie haters actually get mad when Willie does something and it works. You’d rather the Mets lose.

By: Ray Sadecki

Ray Sadecki — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:02:11 +0000

Blame goes to Omar for the sorry shape of the bench. 3 catchers and no backup first baseman, But even if there was one willie wouldnt have bunted there and you know it.

By: TheGuvlovestheMets

TheGuvlovestheMets — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:44:04 +0000

Thank you Original. I’d like to see Sadecki call for a Delgado bunt. And the only guys left on the bench were catchers. And that was obviously Willie’s fault because he used his bench to get back in the game. Obviously he was an idiot to do that. He should have quit just like the fans did when they fell way behind.

By: Ray Sadecki

Ray Sadecki — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:58:54 +0000

For those who say that metsblog is a tool of mets ownership, take a look over there and see what Cerrone has to say about the current situation. Omar has to be feeling some intense pressure. The fact that he is on this trip indicates that he ready to finally pull the trigger.

By: RG

RG — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:20:45 +0000

Changing the staff might make a difference, but a lot of the players seem to be unable to remain focussed and motivate themselves. So maybe they feel pressure from the 2007 Collapse. OK, so then play hard and do something to erase the memory of last season.

Whatever happens with Willie and the coaches I am certain of one thing: I am SICK of how Omar has handled the situation. All these leaks to the press (firing the 1B coach is supposed to let the fan base know you mean business? Oh, puh-leeze) are ridiculous. Omar has shown no leadership.

By: Steve (The Original)

Steve (The Original) — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:08:03 +0000

oops…least of the problems OFFENSIVELY lately. lol

By: Steve (The Original)

Steve (The Original) — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:07:30 +0000

Ray: Well he’s not going to bunt Delgado or pinch hit for him in that position because believe it or not, he’s been the least of the Mets problems defensively. In 2006, possible last game of the season, down by two, no turning back, Willie made the incredibly stupid move of not bunting. Different situations, different timing though.

By: Ray Sadecki

Ray Sadecki — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:00:48 +0000

Did anybody notice that in yesterdays game one, the mets had runners at first and second nobody out in the ninth inning with the tying run on first base. Instead of bunting them over to scoring position, he let delgado hit into a double play? Kind of reminds me of something I saw in 2006.

By: TheGuvlovestheMets

TheGuvlovestheMets — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:41:16 +0000

That’s right Ed: Willie can’t make a miostake. Where are all the guys who know how bad he is apologizing for his move yesterday? The Mets won because Willie put up Cancel.. The fans were booing and I’m sure all of you were cursing him for it. But they won on that move. I guess Omar gets the credit for bringng Cancel to NY. Willie only does wrong, and Omnar only does right.

By: tomg

tomg — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:39:54 +0000

Here is an article that basically states the same thing I said on this blog not to long ago and that is the mets should sell
when the right time here because they do have players they could trade for prospects to rebuild there barren farm system. if the Mets organization was smart this would be the right way to go, but this is the mets organization we are talking about here.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06152008/sports/mets/the_gates_of_sell_115564.htm?page=2

By: TheGuvlovestheMets

TheGuvlovestheMets — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:31:44 +0000

Bob: Willie brings in Mota/Heilmann so he’s a bad manager?. Willie brings in any relief pitcher he’s a bad manager in your book because they all suck. But you are obviously blind to the fact that it dooesn’t matter who comes in. Heilmann didn’t blow 3 saves in a row. That was Willie’s fault that his closer is so pathetic he can’t close in the 8 th and he can’t start pitching with a guy on base. He’;s Omar’s gift, a pathetic, arrogant, obnoxious, over rated gift, but he’s Omar’s gift. Maybe if Willie would have been given a long man last year who wasn’t worse than Mota or a lefty who wasn’t as bad as Mota you would have a claim, but that bullpen had Few reliable arms but you don’t want to admit it because it would disprove the fun you are having on somebody’s death watch.
Secondly Bob, the NL is improving but the Met talent level is not even staying even. Ignore that fact. Beleive this team is very talented, but expalin this. All the talented lovers don’t back it up, because this team has no depth, a little detail that Omar forgot about, but that’s not his fault. He didn;t know that guys get huret and guys get old in the new drug testing era. He thought his guys were excluded. And what manager is miraculously improving????? None of them. Was Clint Hurdle a bum for years, then he was great and now I guess he’s a bum again. And Melvin, he ain’t so great is he since his awesopme D-Backs are sinking ever so slowly to the 500 mark. So what manager is suddenly imrpoving? Manuel in Philly who all the same crap was being spewed about last year like Willie this year, until suddenly they got hot last year. did he get better? No Bob he didn’t/ His players got hot. So who is getting better as a manager? Dusty??? Right on…

If Omar is so good Omar lovers, how come the lineup yesterday was loaded with stars such as Easley batting 5th and Tatis leaving Beltran in CF as the only outfielder, and Nixon’s the one in the outfield a guy who couldn’t make a team out of camp, theoretically worse than Brady clark even, and in the 2nd game the only righty bench guy Cancel, and an offense so pathetically bereft of big league talent that Delgado and Castillo had to play both games, and a bullpen so bad that there are prayer sessions held before each change ( well maybe not tht one, but the pen truly is horrible)
And if Santana was such a great move why was Omar bidding against himself on the deal? And why is there not one prospect even close to being ready to fill in not even temporarily. Yes, Omar is outstanding and if only anybody but Willie would be managing this Omar led dynasty the Mets would be playing .750 ball and be the talk of thown like in 86, but even moreso. Fire Willie, if it makes you all happy, but don’t act like he’s the only one who needs to go. The GM needs to go at least as badly.

By: Ed in Westchester

Ed in Westchester — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:16:59 +0000

So Willie made a double switch mistake. Once. Three years ago.
And he is getting beat up for it still?

That’s a tad silly.

By: Steve (The Original)

Steve (The Original) — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:03:27 +0000

From David Lennon’s Newsday blog:

“Just saw Willie Randolph, Jerry Manuel and Sandy Alomar leave for the stadium from the team hotel. No sign yet of Rick Peterson or Tom Nieto. Stay tuned …”

By: Steve (The Original)

Steve (The Original) — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:38:38 +0000

Tiffany: So Willie shouldn’t be blamed for Perez either. Peterson should be.

By: tomg

tomg — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:33:14 +0000

The problem with perez is two fold. Perez’s mechanics are not good and has problems focusing (mental), which was well documented in Pittsburgh but Omar thought the great peterson could work his magic. I guess it’s Willie’s fault.