Comments on: Church goes on DL

By: scoopcoop

scoopcoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:05:48 +0000

Why is it that people think that a guy who is having a bad season (Heilman) can be traded for a guy having a good one (Nady)?

Sorry, the GM of the Pirates is not as dumb as you think he is.

The team that Minaya put together was designed to be good for a couple yrs. He got 1 yr out of it. I had hoped he would be true to his word and develop a FS so that the team would have a chance to be good yr to yr. But he has not and even with 40MM coming off the books there is little to fill OF, 1B or SP for next yr.

Hence, it appears Omar is a typical Mets yo-yo organizational man who puts out a good team for a 1-2yr span then they stink it up for 4-5.

By: Tiffany

Tiffany — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:36:57 +0000

Tom—Did you like this team after 145 games last year, when they were 83-62 and had a seven-game lead?

By: JOHN

JOHN — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:21:16 +0000

Mike, its a business as well, fans are what makes the team, w/o the fans pouring their hard earned money into merchandise and tickets there would be no ballclub. As a loyal fan that supports their team through viewership and ticket/merchandise purchases, we all reserve the right to express both negative and positive opinions on our beloved Mets. Just the fact the we are on here talking about this should go to show that only real fans of the Mets are in here posting.

By: JOHN

JOHN — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:15:31 +0000

I hate the ” team” that Minaya put together as well Tom.

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:53:23 +0000

Mike,

well, I am a met fan, baseball fan but I admit I don’t like this team that minaya put together. I’m sure I’m not the only met fan that feels this way. I’m not going to bother the players I like on the mets and the players I don’t. The bottom line is I am a met fan and a frustrated one but I am still a fan.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:47:07 +0000

tomg-

Why do you bother rooting for this team? Seriously. There are all different types of fans…but the bottom line is that baseball is supposed to be enjoyable. I get pissed when the team loses and obviously when they win consistently, it’s more “fun” but it’s still a game.

If you hate this team so much or can’t find any enjoyment out of the game, then…

I’m not saying you don’t, but based on your posts, I can’t see how you like this team or this game.

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:23:07 +0000

I wasn’t bringing up Kazmir because what I thought of Omar. I am in extreme frustration mode so I thought I would just pile on the s@@t while I was at it.

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:15:58 +0000

TheGuvlovestheMets,

Good one but that doesn’t count because Omar wasn’t with the mets when that trade was made but willie is here with the church situation. I couldn’t resist, nothing against tiffany. I think she is one of the best poster’s on this blog and is very knowledgeable and has a good sense of humor, it’s refreshing.

By: JOHN

JOHN — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:44:34 +0000

Mark my words ” We will get nady or bay” watch!!

By: TheGuvlovestheMets

TheGuvlovestheMets — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:37:39 +0000

JOHN: You are so off base with thinking that Evans/Heilmann will get Bay or Nady. The Pirates, to evertybody’s shock and dismay are improving, their pitchers are improving, they need a big league starter to give them some experience. Heilmann is not a big league starter, and even if one wanted to make him one, he needs time to stretch and he has no experience to help a young nucleus. They don’t need a corner outfielder in AA to replace a corner outfielder because they have 2 in AAA ready to jump up. They don’t need Evans at 1B since they are already stuck with LaRoche. Now if you want him, I’m sure a deal could be arranged, but he is making Delgado look potent.
If you Dunn from the Reds I think you have the same problem with a match. They bring up outfielders regularly it seems and have a top prospect at first and two rookies who look like they will be real good starters. Both the Reds and Pirates have no front offices who are tryin g to convince a fan base that the world is changing and they aren’t going to be sellers every summer. If they smell any chance a t awild card race they won’t sell unless blown away, which the Mets can’t do. If we still had Flores I’m sure he’d be worth a fortune but we don’t since giving a multi year contract to a 48 year was a higher priority.

tomg: Before Tiffany does this, I will beat her to the punch and ask you if we blame Omar for the Kazmir trade?

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:33:27 +0000

The church situation will go down as the worse organizational decision in baseball history. I guess it’s willie’s fault since everybody seems to blame willie for everything else.

By: JOHN

JOHN — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:28:25 +0000

I wanna see what he can do to save this team this year . Hopefully he’ll impress us and pull off a slick trade, it needs to happen.

By: JOHN

JOHN — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:24:51 +0000

I hate to say this but, 2 concussions in such a short period of time, there is a high probability of Church not being the same player he was ,for at least the rest of this year. We have all seen some great NFL players careers destroyed by this type of injury.

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:24:50 +0000

And that is in the american league and in the east division with the yankees and red sox’s. When that trade happen I was really close to not being a met fan anymore for the first time in my life. When Omar came aboard I bought in to his press conference and with wright and reyes coming up from the minors saved the day. I am starting to doubt Omar Minaya though. I am losing confidence in Omar.

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:01 +0000

Hey, do you want to get even madder as a met fan. Check out Kazmir’s stats. The guy has a 1.41 ERA, 6-1 record and a whip under 1.00, Santana who, it makes me sick to my stomach.

By: dave

dave — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:18:02 +0000

Church on the DL is 3 weeks late. At least they did it.

Now lets see if he can see straight next month.

By: JOHN

JOHN — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:17:55 +0000

Yea unfortunetly, the list goes on and on, when it comes to bad trades involving the Mets!

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:12:45 +0000

Isn’t it ironic that Kazmir has a better chance of making the playoffs than the mets. I will never forget that trade for as long as I am alive in this world. I was driving west on sunrise highway out on eastern long island and listening to the fan. When I heard who the mets traded Kazmir for I literally almost drove my car off the road. I’m not being a front runner here, I knew than that was the one of the worst trades in baseball history. Zambrano had a history of arm trouble and always got smacked around. If you are going to trade someone like Kazmir who at the time was well spoke of by other scouts from other teams you have to get something good, not an average pitcher with a history of arm trouble. That is why I almost drove my car off the road.

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:04:42 +0000

John, That’s fine, the pirate gm could want pitchers from the major league team if there still in the race. I read a while back in the winter meetings that teams were asking about bay and nady and the gm asking price was almost laughable.

By: JOHN

JOHN — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:01:05 +0000

I think Heilamn and evans would get the job done for bay or nady, Where did you hear that they want blue-chip pitching prospects, and I’m sure, while they are in contention for the wild card right now, that wont last long and their asking price will drop.