Mets Chat Room: What’s the call on Perez tonight?
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Oliver Perez won his last time out. He was brilliant through five, but gave up three in the sixth and called it a night. My guess is if he walks four again tonight the Yankees are going to score more than three runs.
I know, he has dominating stuff. He is also, regardless of what his agent, Scott Boras has to say, very erratic.
Heads: Good Ollie.
Tails: Bad Ollie.
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I don’t see Ollie blowing up tonight, but you never do know. He usually dominates lefty heavy line ups, so I think i’d weigh more on the good Ollie tonight.
Joe Morgan off to a rough start already, trying to say “Diamondbacks.”
Goodness I forgot how much I hate Morgan. Is this really the first ESPN Sunday night Met game this year?
I have a bad, bad, bad feeling about this game.
Anderson doesn’t play every day, so you’d think he wouldn’t hack at the first pitch. Then he does and dogs it to first. If that ball dropped fair he would have been out. With crap like that he’d better not think about calling any meetings.-JD
pinch hitters notoriously hack at first pitches, that’s just his mentality, as for not running to 1st, yeah, gotta agree there, he should have run, but i wouldn’t kill them that harshly for it, more then half the league would have done the same thing.
to metsfan: True, but two things. The Mets just had a team meeting that was supposed to deal with things like this. Also, Anderson thinks of himself as a leader. That’s why he called a meeting last season.-JD
This is actually the second Sunday night game this season; the first series in Philly was on ESPN Sunday.
Morgan and Miller arguing about how hard it was for Giambi to scoop, now Morgan venturing off into the NBA. Lovely!
I predict a Perez meltdown in this game, don’t know why just feel it coming
Hello all – Nice catch by Church.
edfever – Ollie have a meltdown? You must be kidding!!!
Great catch by Church – Lastings who?
Church gettin’ it done!
I know stay positive – but everytime I feel like he’s turned the corner he implodes…...yesterday felt so good i’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop…...
What a catch
Did anyone else notice that Santana was sloppy until he got the lead and then he turned into a completely different pitcher and locked them down until he had a cushion … I wish he could teach that…..
Twice now Reyes has shown bunt. That’s a good sign. So is a line drive off the wall.-JD
Getting hung up like that, of course, is just stupid.-JD
Thursday’s nightmares continue…
Terrible baserunning by Reyes…
what is reyes supposed to do? only take a 2 foot lead? it was a quick come backer, nothing he could do. i don’t understand how Reyes is supposed to get back to 2nd there.
I know stuff happens but without that mistake they’re up 1 – 0 right now. I like pitching duels however.
Alou is a hitting machine….
metsfan – Reyes took three steps after the ball was hit. It’s like Beltran not trying to get back to third on Thursday.
DELGADO!!!!!
We wuz robbed. Damned umpires.
Good for Manuel for getting tossed here. This should be a 6-0 game. Why isn’t Willie as passionate as Jerry here???
that was some BS, Jeter just has to look at the ump and they convene with each other quicker then i’ve ever seen. such BS
WTH?????????
That’s a home run!!!!
Also, this delay for Perez is not going to help him, you can be assured of that.
That call at second base on Church’s grounder was blown in the Mets favor beause Jeter was on the base when he caught the ball from Giambi. Of course, no argument from the booth, even though it was pretty clear. The play called as it was, I’m not sure how Giambi didn’t get an error.
I heard the clunk off of the foul pole live, so why did they change the call? Based on those two blown calls, it should be 5-0 with two outs right now.
That was a lousy call. It hit the black tape on the pole. It’s either a home run or a double. It’s not a foul ball. Jerry Manuel was tossed, not Willie.-JD
In Willie’s defense he was the first one to get the ump upset – Manuel just finished it. from the replay anyway.
Spiderpig—Jeter didn’t have control of the ball on the base; it bounced in and out of his glove. That call was the correct call.
Delgado is getting hits and that should have been an opposite field homer. Maybe he’s not done yet.
John – Wasn’t there a loud noise in the ballpark that must have been the ball going off of the pole? Honestly, on the replay, it looked more like it hit the top of the wall and bounced out, which must be the umpires’ excuse. It’s sad that the right call was made and then overturned. Wasn’t this the case on Beltran’s home run that was called back in the first series of the year in Florida?
Ben – I didn’t see that, and, obviously, the announcers didn’t mention that. It did look to me like it was fine, but thanks for that explanation.
JD – Can we get a clarification about the exact rule: if a fly ball hits any part of the foul pole/screen, etc. it is a home run, correct?
JD – Who is the enterprising reporter sitting on the foul pole?
What an inning – the dance of the shortstops, a fair homer called foul, the Mets bat around, and it’s a 35 pitch inning. There is nothing boring about this baseball game and we’re only in the fourth.
This is from November 2007:
The collective general managers voted 25-5 during their Tuesday morning session to at least explore the possibility of using the video technology to help decide disputed home run calls: fair or foul, in or out of the ballpark.
And like all the other years, that’s as far as it got. I’m trying to figure out why people around baseball think having instant replay for homeruns is such a bad idea.. I mean, if it’s a close call the umpires come together and they delay the game trying to get the call right. So what’s the big deal if an umpire puts on a headset and asks the scorekeeper, who has watched multiple replays, if a homerun is fair or foul, or if it went over the wall.
These are plays that can cost a team a game, a chance to get into the playoffs, or a chance of winning a championship, but because Major League Baseball doesn’t want to delay the game an extra 30 seconds, we have to put the destiny of a team on umpires? Don’t get it at all..
Ben – It’s the “house that babe built” rule.
See my comment at 9:13.
I love how there’s a spot on the pole out there along with a spot on the ball, but the umpires didn’t bother to do any investigation. Maybe Manuel should have run out there to look, then point at it! haha
edfever – You have any lottery number picks?
You could see that coming 15 minutes ago. With the delay and losing out on two runs, who couldn’t see Perez having a mind cramp?-JD
JD – can they play this game in protest? They showed a shot on ESPN where the guy who was sitting next to the pole held up the baseball which has a clear black scuff on it and the pole has a large white mark on it.
If they can check the ball for shoe polish on foul balls off players’ feet, why couldn’t they do that?
What does playing a game in protest mean?
At least Ben from Flushing saw it coming.-JD
I believe Matsui’s home run was actually foul.
Ben – That is correct about the foul pole.
Roger – Thanks for that. I thought I remembered them voting for replay in the affirmative, so I was wondering why it wasn’t in play at the beginning of this season for the Beltran ball off of the railing in Florida.
I feel disgusted! That ball was so obviously a home run it isn’t even funny. The Mets better step and and win this thing. Sadly, they are battling not only the Yanks but an incompetent umpire crew!
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I was just wondering – are the umpires at Yankees Stadium on the take?
Someone please tell me where Jon Miller’s lips end and Jeter’s rear end begins.
Letting Wang off the hook could cost Mets.
Does Reyes lead the league in least # of picthes per AB w/runners in scoring position?
He has to be close to the least patient hitter when guys are on 2/3rd.
Lost my connection while I almost threw my tv through the window….
Dont know if that call fustrated me more or ollie trying his hardest to give that lead back
Manuel protected willie
oh and as i write this ollie gives another extra base hit
I think when he gets a lead he tries to get more aggressive and hitters knock him around and once he’s off his game he’s off…. going to be a one run game in a minute
C’mon pile on. We’ll probably need it. Ryan Church – The DC Scrub- Is the Met’s MVP to this date!!!
well, this is the second time this year a met hit a home run and the umps changed the ruling. I have this bad feeling that this call tonight is going to cost the Mets a win. The mets should have 6 runs and if Jose Reyes had his head out of his a@@ the mets should have more.
Calls are missed now and then.
The key to the inning was reyes not being patient after Castillo worked out the walk.
Wang was reeling. Reyes let him off.
I haven’t seen Ryan Church play very often, but he sure plays his position the way Keith Hernandez used to play his, and that’s a big compliment on my part.
81 pitches so far for Perez. Dare I say it? A fast inning here and he could go seven. He’s rebounded after the home run. This is a big inning for him.-JD
To scoop: You’re right. That and getting caught up are two bad plays by Reyes tonight.-JD
Don’t mean to promote the competition, but this comment from a NY writer on his blog could be a running theme for some of tomorrow’s sidebars:
(Re: Manuel getting ejected while Willie stays put)
“Not exactly the best way to change your robotic image, skip. No wonder Willie’s job in still firmly in jeopardy.”
Got to hand it to OP so far.
He does not have his good stuff (FB only around 90 and not alot of dropping down movement on his slider), but he is battling and he has not made any dumb plays on balls hit to him (one of his favorite blow up things).
JD, they showed a graphic. Only OP and Zito have not made it to the 7th inn this yr.
A testament to OPs erratic pitching.
7,8,9 for Yanks. Lets see if OP keeps his focus.
OP goes seven. Wright is right on. 3rd & 1 out. Let’s get another.
Run on those Yankee OF arms.
That’s as excited as I’ve seen anyone scoring a run to increase a 3-run lead to a 4-run lead. Wright was PUMPED! Great to see.
neither reyes getting caught off 2nd nor his poor at bat w/bases loaded is b/c his head is up his a$$, as someone said.
It is b/c he is trying to do too much.
OP w/a solid inn against the bottom of the order. Maybe he is turning it around.
To Ben: I don’t know who wrote that, whether or not Willie Randolph argues with the umpires is an irrelevant point. I wrote that earlier tonight that Randolph’s temperament isn’t the issue on this team. The Mets need fire from their players more than a token display from their manager.-JD
This has been to this point a nicely played game on both sides of the ball for the Mets. I am hoping this is the kick-off for the rest of the season.
Jon Miller should not talk about an album dropping.
And the third base umpire got the HR call right but was overturned.
Weird move by Girardi that probably won’t mean much but still: 99% of the time when you want an intentional walk and a pitching change you have the first pitcher walk the guy, then put in the new pitcher. Why have a guy come in and throw 4 balls?
That was a curious decision to walk Delgado to get to Schneider. I was surprised to see Church going home on Schneider’s hit because I thought he would surely be out, but another bad throw.
Pile on baby!!! Treat ‘em like they used to treat us. The pendulum is swinging!!!
JD – Agreed!!!
Reyes – Head? Firmly on his shoulders!!!
This feels so good!!!
Forgive the outburst, but
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Spiderpig – Scouts say to run early and often on the Yankee outfield. No arms. Abreu is the best but is often innaccurate.
So much for Reyes’s head up his ass, eh? I liked that little dance he did with Delgado at the dugout.
Looks to me like the boys have validated Willie’s season pass to the Managers office. Interesting how this team plays so well ‘on the road’.
Good for Willie letting OP start the inning even with 102 pitches coming in. Sure, the 9 run cushion makes it an easier decision, but with Willie, you never know.
Can Church do anything wrong?
He even seems to know when not to slide at home (if he slide he would have slowed down and may have gotten nipped in the back).
Reyes-in a 4-0 game in the 4th be patient. In an 8-2 game in the 8th it is ok to go up their hacking and hacking he did.
Hopefully his swing is coming back.
Now they have to keep this going against a real rival-the Braves.
Anybody else ever notice how Perez does his best work in big games?
i’m waiting for Delcos to have a positive comment about Ollie…would love to see it, because Ollie really had a good game tonight, only 3 base hits, a couple mishaps here and there, but overall, a very good game. C’mon Delcos, you can do it! Either way, I had a feeling he’d do this, made a comment earlier about it. Ollie always dominates lefty heavy line ups.
Best game of the season…
Why is Jon Miller obsessed with comparing Ryan Church’s home run to Reggie Jackson? He happened to homer while he was mentioning Reggie’s birthday and he hasn’t shut up about it since. I don’t know how the ESPN producers deal with Jon and Joe on a weekly basis, but kudos to them.
Annie – The Mets are better at home this season. After this game, they are 12-9 at home and 10-10 on the road, which is really under 50% because this game is being played in New York.
What do you think that yankee fans are feeling right now? We all know don’t we?
I’m probably checking out here, so barring a 9th-inning meltdown of epic proportions, let’s call this what it is: the most complete game the Mets played this year. Sure, we’d have preferred Reyes not get caught in a rundown or swing at the first pitch later, but here are the facts: in the face of the Bronx, one of the best pitchers in baseball, and a blind man umping first, the Mets hit well, hit in the clutch, played solid defense, got fantastic starting pitching, and everyone in the lineup contributed. Here’s hoping they take this momentum down to Georgia.
Book it up!!! Let’s kick some Brave butt!!!
This game will take up a couple of chapters in Howie’s book. Day off tomorrow and the Maine Man starts the Braves games on Tuesday afternoon.
Great to see the Mets getting some hits with RISP—not to mention the fact that they didn’t let that nonsensical call derail them. They sure reversed that call quickly after Jeter’s comment…nice.
Really great game by Ollie, too.
And grandpa Alou is some hitter.
JT
Some of you are really giving Willie no benefit for the argument he did give after the bad call. He may not have been tossed but you could clearly see how upset he was. Not to mention the fact that you could clearly here the home plate umpire say “you need to shut up Willie” just before he tossed Manuel from the game. ...Far from a perfect game overall but a great win and they ALL deserve some credit.
Looks like the metsies have turned things around. Could be trouble for the rest of the east.
DC, what you do go drinking?
There is no way that post (DC 9ER) is the real DC 9ER, he would never say anything positive about the Mets, that is a imposter IMO.