You don’t make the playoffs 12 years in a row by luck.

Do not insult Mr. Torre, who is going to the HOF as a manager, by calling Willie “Joe Torre Light.”

After this latest explicitive stuff from Wagner and the fact that it was noted that last yr the bench guy (Marlon Anderson-who wasn’t even on the team until mid-yr) was calling team meetings, it is clear that there is no leadership.

You can have the greatest collection of people (no matter the business, baseball, or otherwise), but if no one leads, you don’t move toward your goals.

I continue to feel that the Mets will NEVER win with Randolph as their manager. He doesn’t bring much to the table and he certainly does not seem to have the respect of this team. How much longer are we going to have to have him manage this club? Worse yet, in midseason, who could we get to replace him? I continue to miss Bobby V. Does anyone out there believe he would not have found a way to get this team into the playoffs last year?

we cut the only player who fit that description.

this is omars fault. he built the team. u can make the case for anderson and easley individually, we have church in right and pagan on dl, but logically there should be someone who can play first or second who can take a job and they dont exist.

Hitting? I dunno…

Basically, here’s what it comes down to.

There’s no trades to be made without giving up the only can’t-miss-barring-injury prospect they have.

Hitting-wise, there’s nothing in AAA that’ll make any difference and there’s no one in AA who’s ready to make the jump.

There’s nobody on the bench at the majors champing at the bit to take over a starting role.

There’s no free-agents out there to sign.

Something needs to change and there’s only one thing to change.

The manager.

Willie can’t manage a bullpen, he refuses to make the veterans show any responsibility and his stoic-and-steady bullcrap won’t work on the younger players… because, as much as he can’t admit it, it ain’t 1975 anymore.

Joe Torre’s only a good manager on a team full of performing veterans and Joe Torre Lite certainly doesn’t cut it on a team of unmotivated veterans and rudderless young guys.

It’s the only change that can be made and it is the time to pull the trigger.

Get someone young and/or in his first managing role in there to fire the place up and if it makes Alou and Delgado and Castillo angry… all three of those guys should by-rights retire at the end of this year so who cares?

It’s time.

That undercurrent of discontent over some Mets ducking the media boiled over after the game. As reporters spoke with Billy Wagner after the loss, first about the Yankees series, then about today’s game, Wagner wondered aloud why the closer was drawing attention.

Then he went Paul Lo Duca-esque, minus the racial component.

He looked over toward the area of Carlos Delgado’s locker and blurted: “Someone tell me why the (expletive) you’re talking to the closer. I didn’t even play. They’re over there, not being interviewed. … I got it. They’re gone. (Expletive) shocker.”

Who Needs Lohan – I think you’re being somewhat sarcastic, based on fan reactions, because I’m not in the “Rangers suck” camp, and I don’t think you are either. :)

This needs to change fast or a 500 season will even be a distant memory.

It is welcome. Big Pelf had a nice game from the boxscore.

I don’t have an opinion on all that is said here, but Omar picked this team. As someone said earlier this season the new guys are the ones playing.

It seems many teams make that mistake. Go for the tried and true which in the end gives you a team with no energy because you don’t have enough hungry players. I think that is one part of the problem here. There are no young bench/starters who are trying to prove themselves every day.

Experience is nice and necessary, but so is youth.

Dave