The Mets didn’t just mail it in today, they used FedEx.
Especially their pitcher. Question: Can The Jacket fix Oliver Perez? Can anybody fix Oliver Perez?
I wrote today that the Pirates are a team the Mets should beat up on, not be humiliated by. They showed nothing today. What’s alarming is it comes on the heels of a game they could have lost last night. Tuesday should have been a wake-up call for the Mets to not take teams for granted. So much for alarms and messages.
If the Mets were a high school team, Willie Randolph would be out having them run laps tomorrow. Maybe he should, anyway.
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Following the game Billy Wagner had the following comments:
“You’ve got to have that willpower and that desire to go back out there and fight,†Wagner said about responding to the Mets’ early deficit. “This guy (Pirates starter Tom Gorzelanny), he wasn’t throwing the ball that well to shut down our offense. Perez has honestly got to step up and know that we’ve just used every guy in our bullpen the night before. He can’t come out there and decide that gee, he hasn’t got it today, and so be it.â€
Wagner added: “When you have games like this, it’s very easy to say, ‘Hey, yeah, you’re going to have these games.’ And you will have these games. But when there’s not a lot of effort and desire, that’s when you worry. You definitely want to play a little bit better than we did, but I know everybody is out there doing what they can. As a pitching staff, we have to show up. We can’t go out there and get beat 13-1 by Pittsburgh.â€
After reading comments like this and others Wagner has had to say, I have to admit I like the guy. He never hides from the media and says what’s on his mind. How refreshing.
It got me to thinking that after his career is over, perhaps he will one day become our version of Joe Gerardi – a future manager. Then again, today’s pampered ballplayers would probably revolt and refuse to play for him!
Billy Wagner nailed it on the head when he talked about Oliver Perez. I’ve said it dozens of times, he’s a heads-and-tails guy. You can’t rely on him.
What I don’t understand about Randolph is why he left him in long enough to allow all those walks.
Once he got to five he should have told Perez he was going seven to save the pen.-JD
Darling always talks about how Davey Johnson said to him one game you are going to stay out there no matter what so figured out how to get some outs or you can embarrass yourself.
I don’t know if that would work for OP and i just wonder if he was too amped up facing his old team and just lost it.
Some position player has got to step up like wagner and tell the rest of the team to wake up.
That game was ugly!! It only counts as one loss, right? The only saving grace is everyone else in the division has problems.
I have to look it up but didn’t the Mets fire Davey Johnson in late May, 1990? A year and two months after the disappointing NLCS loss to the perceived-to-be-weaker Dodgers. Davey was in a lot of trouble by then with the front office, kept changing his mind every other day how often Gary Carter should be catching. I think Randolph will be (and should be) given the full year.
Baseball is a marathon not a sprint. But even in marathons sometimes you have to go all out.
Delcos, you say now that you’ve always said Perez is a heads or tails guy, but that’s not entirely true, in the past you’ve said you don’t understand what’s up with Perez, or that you wish he could bottle his good starts, stuff like that, but i’m glad you’re finally coming around, even if you won’t admit you weren’t so clear about him before. Perez is what he is, there’s no wishing with the guy, there’s no “what’s wrong” with him, he is what he is, and he’s basically not very good. I like him a lot, he’s a fun guy to have on a team, an interesting personality, but to rely on him as more then a #4/fring #3 starter is a problem. That’s why I said at the beginning of the year Maine is much more likely to ascend to be a decent #2 or good #3, then Perez is, but a lot of people around here didn’t buy it. Perez as a #4 is alright, but as a #3, he’s iffy. But for this team, in this league, he’s fine I guess. There’s really no good team’s besides Arizona, and we won’t have to really worry about them until the postseason, so I don’t see Ollie holding us back from winning the division, but you won’t see me crying when he tries hitting the free agent market. If we end up signing him to a decent deal, then whatever, but no way Omar will overpay him or pay “market” value as they say.
even #4 starters are getting big deals. So eventhough OP has lots of mechanics issues and head issues, I hope they straighten him out and if so sign him b/c when you get down to it, Mets only have 2 guys for sure next yr, Santana and Maine.
I also hope Scheinder gets back soon. Some of the picthers are lost a little w/o him.
from marty noble “The Mets had seen the same sort of performance from Perez last July 26, in another game against the Pirates at Shea. He allowed one hit and no walks and struck out eight through five innings, but he never faced a batter in the seventh. He allowed five runs in the sixth, four after two outs, and his own throwing error made all five runs unearned.”
so maybe it is a going against your former team deal….w/OP it is a real possibility that he would be too amped up against the team that threw him away. these are his only 2 starts against bucs…
Delgado, reyes and wright stated that today was just one of those games and so did Willie (although some players said he was pretty ticked off in the dugout).
But Willie’s attitude except in a couple of comments here and there seems to be the same as last yr….
Oh metsies it was only one freakin game in April….. Don’t go jumpin off the the Brooklyn Bridge please…....
Anyway some of you wrote things about me so I must respond…
Tomg says I’m a Yankee fan… REALLY TOMG…. thanks for that piece of incorrect info. But don’t you know the yankees consider you like people consider ants. They only worry about RED SOX not little metsies.
And JK said something about the NATS sucking. Well JK I thought you were smart but when you go to work tomorrow and open up your NY Post and read the standings look at the benchmark of the last 10 games. LOOKY WHO SUCKS more than the NATS do now. THE NEWYORK METS, that who JK.. And for the whole season we have 11 wins and how many do you overpaid metsies metsies have ONLY 3 MORE Than us. THE METS SUCK JK…!!!!!!!!!!
PS: Lovely games today. Sorry I couldn’t stay for the whole metsie game but the boss took us all to the Nats game. Guess what. NO BOOING. I bet they booed and lost their voices at the parking lot field….. And we won AGAIN…. Holy mackeral the Nats are on a roll…...We’re gonna pass the metsies next month!!!!!!!!!!
Poor OP, pitches a 2 hitter and bad Willie takes him out….
Now weren’t you mr unoriginal making fun of the nats for having a bad the other day???? Well make fun of your overpaid metsies… 7 runs and 2 little hits is very exceptional by a metsie pitcher or any pitcher isn’t it ? That’s really hard to do.
Sorry Metsfan: I’ve always called OP a heads-tails guy. You’re wrong as usual. If OP were as consistent as you he would win the Cy Young.-JD
But with this team, if they ran laps, at least three new and exciting players would end up on the DL.
Sorry for the last post, guys. I’m having a bad day. In reality, the Mets are just struggling; they’ll take the division in the end. Have faith, guys!
Meanwhile, the Nats SUCK. BOOOOOOOOOO on them. I call the Nats GM Jim BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOwden! LOLOLOLOLOL! Seriously, I wish my team had a chance to win this year like your Mets.
LET’S GO METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am glad Wagner said what he said. Eventhough he does have foot-in-the-mouth disease every now and then. He seems to fit a leader role. Other than that last blown save (which was not entirely his fault) he manages to back up his work so far.
I want to say this is one game. (heck the Brews got beat up too). However, its more of the poor defensive that really gets me. This seems like it happens a lot with these guys.
For real never mind the batting for a moment. Defensive wins games too and the Mets are pretty bad at it so far this year. It makes me wonder if Willie even had them practice fielding and DPs during ST.
errors from
Pagan
Wright
Delgado
Castillo
Reyes
and Wild pitching appears like a bad habit.
Lack of batting, Lack of command from the rotation, and Lack of effective bullpen would not be so magnified if it was not for all the terrible fielding that this team has done.
Make good throws or Do not throw at all.
Keep your head down until you grip the ball with the glove. Dont assume you have the ball.
Dive for the ball. At least make it look like you tried. (D-wright is excused from this)
Use two hands when catching the ball (I rarely see this now a days)
Know what do when the is a force out and where the ball is going and who is covering what. Know what out it is during the inning.
All these defensive tactics are fundamental. They teach this stuff in little league. Since when has this changed?
Some poor imitator said that I said “Sorry for the last post, guys. I’m having a bad day. In reality, the Mets are just struggling; they’ll take the division in the end. Have faith, guys!
Meanwhile, the Nats SUCK. BOOOOOOOOOO on them. I call the Nats GM Jim BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOwden! LOLOLOLOLOL! Seriously, I wish my team had a chance to win this year like your Mets.”
All the metsfans shoulkd be more like METSFAN and clm. They are the best metsies in the world. They have fun and defens their little metsies no matter how bad they are. If the rest of you metsies were like metsfan and clm I’d have to leave because I’d have done my job, by the way this is the 5th anniversary of the President of the United States States saying mission accomplished. I guess Bushie and Minaya are the two worst at what they do guys in the whole United States of America…..
Have a nice day off little metsies. Go have a beer and relax. Tough weekend coming up…
You should have faith cause you sure don’t have a team that earns its salary do you? Even runnin rebel says you should play better at a very youthful age, right runnin rebel, see I agree with metsies… Why do you get upset with me. I’m just ahead of you a little because I don’t love the metsies I see your coming plight more easily..
Little metsies you must be really seriosuly getting worried that I am right, which of course I am.
Thanks for being me who ever you are.
Must have been tomg since I already know so many of you are me So I’ll add me tomg to the me Hello list…
Right about what? Getting rid of Omar and Willie?
The Mets will not know for sure unless they do it and things all of a sudden get better for the Mets.
Me upset with you? I don’t agree with you rubbing words in our face but you are who you are.
Castillo’s old team took a dump yesterday as well. Marlins got smoked.
It’s ridiculous how the Mets are still tied for 2nd place. That’s funny.
Mets have performed pretty well against the Dbacks in AZ last year. But then again ..that was last year.
Just got back from seeing my pyschiatrist. He says I had to take my meds regulrly. I was skipping them. They make me eat way too much. I feel like pig at times. But when I skip the meds I get loony. So sorry I was leavings so much gibberesh here. I will try to take my meds in the future. But I cannot promise. Oh well. What can I do? I am just not right in the brain. I was dropped on my head by my sister when I was baby. So have pity and understasding. luv, me
You ever read that “Kathy” comic strip? That’s kinda what my life is like most of the time! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!
“AAAAAAAAACK!” My bathing suit doesn’t fit! LOLOLOLOLOL!
Looks like someone wants to be meso bad that they can’t stop being me. But you know the real me…. So good try, and if you want to be me badly enough that’s ok, i’ll change my name and you can be hello from dc pelham pkwy, and I’ll be you JK or keith or Tomg or Delcos or sloppy or Bob, or Mr Scoopy or dave or anybody else..
But not Metsfan or clm becaue they are happy metsies!!!!
Things must be worse than I thought… You all want to be like me and be a Nats fan. We don’t want you. You little metsies are too grumpy and boo your own team every day. We want Natsies who will appreciate the effort the guys give no matter the result…. So you all stay in the dirty parking lot and get meaner and grumpier with each passing loss….... and win even… Nothing pleases metsies anymore.
Love and kisses….
In 2006 early on the Mets hadn’t quite gelled yet. Then they went on a west coast swing against the Dodgers and DBs and they had a great trip. If memory serves they only lost one game and then they were on their way. Also, they have been strong against the DBs for a while. Let’s see if they get away from Shea for a while if that helps them.
HelloFromDC – You are just misunderstood on this blog. Number one you make me laugh (I know I’ve said it before) and B. You are just trying to lighten things up, I believe, not rub our nose in it. I mean you are a Nats fan and you are having fun. That’s baseball.
ClM,
I cannot believe that you think that the 2006 d-backs are the same team as they are now in 2008. This d-back team is allot better this year. On the other hand this met team is not as good as the team in 2006. I wouldn’t get your hopes up that this met team will have a winning record on this west coast trip. This team has shown no heart or passion. This met team looks uninspired. The d-backs organization has built a team the correct way. The d-backs could be building a team that will be the class of the national league for a while.
I don’t know tomg if the D’backs did it the right way. What they did do is stick to a plan and went thru some lean years. Do you think the Met fanbase as impatient as it is now would survive a few down years… I don’t think the one thing the Mets do is stick to a plan.
You are certainly right on however when you say they ain’t the same D’backs as they were 2 years ago. Maturing kids and a great tandem to start in the rotation ain’t a bad start.
why Endy over Pagan: Although Pagan is decent. Endy is much better at running down balls and producing hits.
why Delgado has to go: because he’s done. he has injuries since last year. Listen 1 hit a week got Ordonez let go and he was a gold glove.
Church is the man.
Wright is the Man.
Reyes does the right thing when Endy plays. have you noticed???
Beltran has woken up. :-)
The pitching: since last year and since a few years ago. pitching has taken a back seat. These pitchers need to go the long distance… 7-8 innings..
tomg – Don’t think I’m thinking that this will happen again. I am just saying that’s what happened and maybe they will catch lightening in a bottle. Who knows? Really they are a good team but they just aren’t playing like it for whatever reason. If it continues they aren’t a good team.
Have a little hope!!! And the Diamondbacks are not the ‘29 Yanks!!! But they do have pitching.
No team captain. and No one that fires them up. There is something to be said about a manager or someone who will light the spark. Sitting back and letting them flounder isnt always a good thing.
Every day this team starts to remind me of the 2002 team.
The Mets big mistake that year was not firing Bobby during the season instead of waiting till after it was over.
And I am one of the biggest Bobby supporters ever.
Look I know Willie does not hit pitch or field.
But to steal someone else’s immortal quote.
“Sometimes you need to kill a villager to save the village.”
I also don’t buy the line that Omar built this team.
Good managers know how to adapt to things.
Willie has not changed at all from 2005.
He just keeps trying to jam square pegs into round holes.
I am not even sure firing Willie will work, doing nothing may also work. Only time will tell.
Its the injuries and the old men. Small ball vs long ball.
When the long ball doesnt come. the team has to resolve in getting the small ball across.. thats the problem.
DC – I thought you were won over by our inspired play and turned to the dark side. No it was not me who was you. In fact I rather appreciate you. You break up the mood of this place.
I want to see Jose bunt to get on base. Since he is not finding the ball drag it down third and run to first. Then when on go to second. He is not doing that.
dave are you sure you aren’t me? Well whatever I guess you clm and Metsfan are good little metsies… A growing club!!!
Looking at the otherposts the little metsies are not enjoying the off day. so I’ll leave them get angrier and angrier. I think we have a game against those mean Pittsburghers who humiliated the metsies and who humiliated the hockey guys as well…. I don’t know anything about hockey but I think we have a team almost as bad as the metsies are… Are there any hockey fans around here???
No it was not me. If I were to play you it would be somewhat more subtle than going against everything you stand for.
Many here think you are insane. I do not have that opinion. There is certainly a method to your madness :)
Wow, dave they think I’m insane!!!!!!! I’m not a metsie fan….