SS Jose Reyes
RF Angel Pagan
3B David Wright
CF Carlos Beltran
1B Carlos Delgado
2B Damion Easley
LF Brady Clark
C Raul Casanova
RP Nelson Figueroa
“Raul Schneider”—half of each catcher?
Who the heck is Raul Schneider lol???
And why is Clark playing…
Can we count on a win today??
Mets 2-8 when Castillo bats 2nd.
8-0 when Pagan or Church bat 2nd.
Hey Willie, take a hint!!!!
I guess Willie wants to give Church a day off against a lefty (even though he’s hitting lefties) and it’s a day after a night game. Plus, it gives Clark one more shot before Alou returns and someone has to go to NO.
Seeing Aaron Heilman pitch in every game is starting to wear on me. I just asked myself why Willie didn’t bring in Shoeneweis for the 8th. At this point, bringing in anybody but Heilman seems like the right move. Is it because I don’t think Heilman can get the job done on a given night? No, I actually think that when he’s right he’s one of the more consistent relief pitchers in the game. But it’s obvious that Willie is going to go to Heilman EVERY NIGHT, even when he should be given some extra rest.
Here’s an idea. Place Heilman on the 15 day DL, and take Matt Wise off of it. It might seem crazy now, but the rest will do Heilman some good. He can come back in 15 days fully rested, and ready to pitch -hopefully not everyday again-. Nothing would make me happier then Aaron Heilman saying that he has a tired arm. Nothing.
Now on to something that was on my mind as soon as John Maine came out of last nights game. Now, this isn’t necessarily Willie’s fault (but lets blame him anyway), but after recording the final out in the 6th inning, John Maine had thrown 105 pitches. Maine had looked great throughout the entire game, and if you take away ONE pitch, it’s a 0-0 game. Willie knew his bullpen was already worn out, and he knew that John Maine was pitching a great game. But I bet he never went to John and said “Can you give me one more?” It’s not even as if the Mets were LEADING at that point. They were down 2-0.
He could of brought John Maine out for the 7th inning, then if he got in trouble, used one of the smith/show combination to finish off the inning. Then for the 8th inning, he could of brought in Duaner Sanchez. Depending on the score—and the amount of pitches that Duaner threw that inning, he could of left him in there for a second inning, or brought in Wagner/Sosa.
Just my rant.. But if you can continue to give the ball to a tired relief pitcher, why can’t you ask your starter to give you one more inning?
It is pretty clear that willie does not know what he is doing. Sounds to me that because it is early in the season he feels that there is time to experiment with the line.
I hope he does not experiment himself out of a job. As much as people want him to leave… if he leaves that means the Mets are not doing that well..
Will some reporter ask willie “When is it not too early in the season?” Seriously because that “its too early in the season” is really pissing me off and everyone else has to be tired of hearing it too.
Roger, I like your idea of putting Heilman on the DL to rest him up in theory. However, 15 days is definitely more than necessary, and Heilman is a much better option than Wise. Plus, before this move would happen, you’ve gotta be sure that Sanchez is ready for the 8th inning. He’s looked good so far, but I’d still like to see a few more reps out of him before considering a move.
All of these posts are examples of a “con” that results from this age of the internet and talk radio. Having all this information and all of these places to blather on about stuff is not always a good thing.
RE: the lineup today (or any day for that matter). Clark hasn’t gotten a start this year and Church hasn’t had a rest. Plus, Clark is probably going to be out of here soon, so the team may be giving him a shot to showcase his talents to another club.
And yes, it is still too early in the season to be getting crazy over anything. I remember last year some people were saying we should send Wright to AAA.
“But I bet he never went to John and said “Can you give me one more?” It’s not even as if the Mets were LEADING at that point. They were down 2-0.”
Roger, why would you bet this? Look, I am in no way a big time Willie supporter, but this kind of speculation is just unfair. Maine was at 105 pitches… it’s not like he was under 100. You guys can complain all you want about how pitchers do not go deep in games anymore, but this is how it is. Starting pitchers become much less effective after they’ve thrown 100 pitches.
Well since you (Keith) appear have all the answers…
When is it not too early?
Clark is gone as soon as Alou returns.
Unless happen to know it is someone else.
Putting heilman on the DL is one of the most goofy ideas I have ever heard. He does need to rest, but not b/c he is not good.
Don’t look at 1-2 games as your benchmark (I hope you don’t look at 1-2 events in the rest of your life to determine your next actions). Look at whole seasons. Heilman has been very good for the Mets for 3 yrs. And if you want to look at 1-2 games, I can do that too. How about Saturday when he “saved” the game.
If some of you were the manager, you would have a mutiny on your hands w/in days or the players would say go F yourself since you showed so little confidence in them.
raul schneider? is this for suspense?
Welp the last time we had the B-team in against Chicago we pulled out that 5 run miracle
Ya Gotta Believe
Raul Schneider—kinda like Juan Epstein. What a wacky family that must have been. :)
I’d like to know why 100 is such a special number when pitchers for years sometimes doubled that. Are the pitchers today so much better than 20 years ago or 30 or 40? I think not.
Sometimes you just let the guy pitch even if they are struggling. Just like you let a hitter hit rather than sit him if he hasn’t hit the ball in 2 games.
I’m losing confidence in willie as a manager. I question the way he uses the bullpen. I’m starting to wonder if that is why the mets bullpen was getting rocked at the end of the season last year.
Don’t ask me I hav no idea what I am talking about.
Wah wah wah my team is in last place!
pitch counts are used to protect pitchers arms. There are always guys who could go out there and pitch many many innings and throw many pitches, but there were also hundreds of guys who got hurt. Now, with the value of pitching arms through the roof, with all the money being spent on them, even guys coming out of high school, the thinking today is that you have to do everything possible to protect those arms, and part of that is limiting their pitches. In addition, batters today are much more apt to take more pitches, extend at bats, with a premium on OBP these days, and that makes pitches work that much harder. All in all, whatever the reason is, from when they’re growing up, pitchers don’t throw as many pitches, so you can’t expect them to start doing that once they’re in the big leagues. They’re muscles are trained differently then they were in the past. But let’s not also forget that in the past, not every pitcher threw so many pitches, many didn’t, and many pitchers were hurt far more often.
keith you are such a good metsie I might move back to NYC and become a metsie fan…... again…....
shame on you roger for saying the metsies should cheat and disable a healthy little aaron. metsies are a lot of bad things but they are not cheaters.
love and kisses W
shame on me for being completely irrational…I am a poor excuse..
how do the metsies let me get in their head. sad sad sad…
Hahaha Raul Schnieder.
The defense of Brian, with the hitting of Raul?
Thanks Seaver … made me laugh. ``Please excuse Juan from school today. Signed, Epstein’s mother.’‘
Willie would be able to get more out of the pen if he did not have two logy’s. One of them has to go.
I understand now. When they draft you they say you can only make 30 pitches so all through AAA they train you to go 3 innings. Then when they promote you they stretch you out to go 5 because you are so valuable.
Pitchers today are horrible. Most #1 pitchers today would be a #3 from yesterday. I am not complaining specifically about the Mets. It is all of baseball. Maine looks like a guy who should go 7 or 8 every time out. A pitcher with a 4 era is considered good. On the 86 team that pitcher might not be in the majors.
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