You trying to act like you know anything about baseball is a bigger joke DCJK. You still didn’t tell us about your pretend journey. Any Nat fans beat you up or make you cry DCJK…? Did you have beer spilled on your perfect Met Tee shirt DCJK? Did you send the centerfielders oxygen because they were so fatigued from their extrmely strenuous night out there DCJK? Was that your first baseball game live DCJK?

I don’t think every guy on a team has to have fire to whip some ass. However I think that every team should have a few or at least one guy (Reyes) who do have that fire.

I do not think it is overrated. Some players need it, some do not.

Jones I would put in the group of the first Kevin McReynolds. Well, maybe Jim Hickman was the first Kevin McReynolds but it didn’t really matter in the early 60’s. A crown now held by our Right Fielder. Of course, they’re all Kevin lights because he was a 20/20 man, who still never met expectations.

Beltran talked to Reyes because he wasn’t being himself. He needed to stop trying to be something he wasn’t.

I think the media and the fans get caught up in this stuff too much. If you honestly believe that guys like Drew or McReynolds really don’t care about winning then I think you’re crazy.

An example from my own personal experience: when I played ball with my brother, I caught and he played CF. I was what you would classify as the fiery type. My brother was very laid back and calm… more like a Beltran type. But that didn’t mean he didn’t bust his butt every game and it didn’t mean he didn’t want to kick ass as much as I did. Not everyone expresses themselves on the field like Keith Hernandez or Milledge or Paul O’Neill.

I don’t even know how to respond to this. He’s hurt. He has no “game level” (whatever that even means.) To disparage a player because he’s hurt is pretty lame.

As for my attitude, I’m not going to apologize for being able to clearly articulate my point of view in a strong and organized manner. If that comes across as being holier than thou, well, as you would say, deal with it.

Rebel, you’re the one hiding behind a name, not me. My name is Keith, since birth. And educate yourself on the dynamics of the board before you get involved. Sloppy and I, as much as we quarrel, have a lot of respect for one another. I know my own personal perspective and philosophy on baseball is not the be all end all.

I simply call it as I see it. I believe the majority of the posters on this site are being ridiculous for getting all worked up over two losses in Chicago.

As for the qualifying, my point is a simple one. I’ve never seen a fan base that qualifies their own team’s VICTORIES. Usually they qualify the losses and flaws. Instead, I’ve seen people say “Well, there is no way we take 4 of 6 from Philly without Rollins.” Or “Ryan Church doesn’t get dirty when he plays.” It’s like you guys are actively looking for things to complain about.

If you want to complain about Delgado. Go for it. Heilman? Fine by me (I was in attendance when he blew it in ‘06… so I’m not a big Heilman fan.) The Castillo signing? Dumb as hell and Minaya should be called on the carpet for it. Heck, I even understand having issues with Willie’s managerial skills. But complaining about Church, Schneider, El Duque (who’s not even playing), beating the Phillies 4 of 6, and losing to Carlos Zambrano is absurd.

Second your very out of date about the squeeze. didn’t you see Willie called the squeeze and the great Luis Castillo slept thru the sign and almost killed Pagan by swinging.

Have Beltran bunt? Beltran bunts and everytime he does the entire met fan base comes down on him for bunting.

Hit and run I’ll grant you that one!

If your getting sick of the qualifying (like most fans do with their team) then go elsewhere. You call it bitching or moaning but if we did not care, then there wouldn’t just that-bitching and moaning and whatever you want to call it.

What is with your “hollier than thou” attitude? You come on this site with whichever ever name you decide to use and pick up “flaws” on Met fans arguments. Give me a break. Your arguments have flaws too. But you know what? Big deal. It is not about that. This isn’t a debate club nor is it a technical writing seminar. Your irritating people with the way you go about your business. While you bring interesting things into this site, flattering yourself through your demeanor towards others does not strengthen your point of view if that what you are trying to accomplish.

This is a Mets-type blog we should not have to justify our ranting but we choose to. Just like you choose to have your “hollier than thou” behavior.

Who cares about Rollins so much? He plays for another team. He has made errors like the rest of them. Struck out like the rest of them. He’s a good player just like Utley and a few others. The Mets won without him. Good. That’s all I am going to say about that.

If I want to call Orlando Hernandez “El Dookie” I should be able to do so considering his crappy game level right now. Your the only one who cares to defend him. Good luck.

D-Wright is quite younger than Delgado. Delgado is also coming off surgery. Plus no one is asking for Delgado to be sent down to the minors. I am convinced that Delgado has the mechanics to perform is job to an expected level. I also believe that Delgado has more of a mental issue about his slump more than anything else. It has affected his plate work and now his fielding (lets not forget he did throw into Utley not long ago).

As for Santana, he is in a new ballpark, a new league and in a new clubhouse. With that being said thre maybe an adjustment period for him until he really kicks it off. By the way if he was the best pitcher in baseball (if we are talking about the present) then his stats would show for it. Right now Peavy, Haren and Webb appear to have better starts. Not to take away from Santana but the proof is there. Santana was also suppose to bring a great deal of confidence for the Mets. Do the Mets have confidence right now? The make say so but their start might be showing otherwise.

As for the two Nationals, both showing great promise in their roles. I am still not too convinced on Schneider’s defense but I am more optimistic about him the others in the club house. However I made my point with these two. I really do not think you gained any ground from your point of view. We will just have to agree to disagree on this.

You may not have had high expectation for the Mets this year but I like the other fans expected them to hit the ground running. Kicking ass to the lengths of Arizona. I know they have faced some hard teams aready but it is not going to get easier for the Mets.

Yes, I expected some sweeping. I think the Mets did too. Oppportunies were blown already this year. This is the bulk of the frustration lives in the Mets fans.

Adding those three guys certainly helped things out so far. However, making the Mets a new team? I just really disagree with you on that.

The problems that are currently going on with the Mets right now are the same or very similar type of problems that went on last September. (those problems no need to mention since we all know them.)

Bringing a guy with a boot on his foot will not change things and perhaps will make things worse. Fig 1. and Pelfrey are both doing better than anyone has expected and have favorably benefitted the team considering their amount of time in MLB.

Tinkering with the line up is just not a good idea on many levels. The line up should already be intact with very little flexibility. That is my opinion. Take it or leave it.

Bench is a bench …not a give them some start time on a once or twice a week basis. What gives Willie that confidence to leave out some of his starters for yesterday’s game? Don’t give them days off because they are tired. Injured? Sure. Tired? Get over it. You can argue this if you want but I don’t care what else is to be said about it.

Fact of the matter is this is Willie’s team he can do what he wants, the record heading into October will show his efforts for better or worse (hopefully for the better). If for worse I am willing to bet Wilpon will find someone else.

I think you were very close to nailing it. Half our team is playin like garbage because half our team is garbage..

We may be last but we at least don’t hate our team. And I bet most of you wish you could trade 90% of your team for one Jimmy Rollins.

Well off to the park, I was gonna be nice to the metsies, but why bother, since you all hate them so much anyway.

I don’t know how anyone can be unhappy with Church and Schneider so far. Church defensively is better than Green, Milledge, Nady, and Pagan who is worse in the OF than I thought he would be. Church is just a notch below Beltran and Endy in terms of defense. He’s also hitting both lefties and righties and with men in scoring position. Schneider has the 4th best OBP for a catcher in the majors so far. I wouldn’t be too concerned with the passed balls earlier either. He hadn’t caught these pitchers often before and was breaking in a new glove, which he ended up chucking. They’ve been two of the more productive players on the team, along with Wright and Pagan.