Mets Chat Room: Perez, Heilman keep Mets rolling.
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Heilman entered the game with a 10.76 ERA at Citizens Bank Park and the Mets know they will need him before it is over.
The Mets have now won five straight overall and four straight against the Phillies. Your thoughts on the game, whether you believe they’ve shaken any Philly jinx, and them going for the sweep tomorrow night with Mike Pelfrey?
GAME #16: Mets 4, Philadelphia 2
IN A NUTSHELL
Heilman and Duaner Sanchez shine in relief. David Wright is sizzling.
FROM THE CLUBHOUSE
Aaron Heilman on pitching poorly here: “You have to have a short-term memory. It’s not easy to forget. It definitely takes time. It doesn’t come easy.’’
Willie Randolph on Philadelphia fans who cheered Jose Reyes’ injury from Friday: “That was Philadelphia, the fans, in general. We live in this culture where fans are that way. They make their feelings known and they love to hate. It was sad. It really is. The guy could have been hurt.’’
IN-GAME ANALYSIS
1st INNING: Mets take early lead, but could have had more. Nice job by Perez for not fooling around and going after Phillies. Mets 2, Philadelphia 0.
2nd INNING: Phillies get a couple on against Perez, but he works out of it.
6th INNING: Perez pitched will today, but didn’t finish, giving way to Duaner Sanchez in the sixth. Interesting scenario for Sanchez as it wasn’t in a traditional set-up role.
7th INNING: Chase Utley homered off Scott Schoeneweis, but that’s going to happen. Perez pitched well, but the big picture is he didn’t finish it off. Nobody expects complete games these days, but another inning would have been nice. Mets 4, Philadelphia 1.
8th INNING: Heilman finished the inning strong. Maybe it will shake him from his Philly funk. Mets 4, Philadelphia 2.
NOTEBOOK
Catcher Brian Schneider took a foul ball off the bat of Utley in the ninth on his arm and is day-to-day. … Billy Wagner earned his 362nd career save. … David Wright had two more hits to raise his average to .344.
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what’s on my mind is how much i hate the national black out rules that fox and mlb have instituted to deny fans the opportunity to watch their teams play when they live in an out of market area.
being a die hard i am relegated to buying both the extra innings package and the mlb gameday package so that i have an avenue to listen to the however many saturday games the mets play that are not part of the west coast’s game of the week.
instead of steroids, perhaps this is something that congress should get involved with.
annie—
the only ball i played at brandeis took place on the intramural fields.
John, any news if Jimmy Rollins will play in this series.
Rollins is not in the line-up, but could play tomorrow.-JD
A lot of traffic in the area. The circus is in town and so is an Obama rally. Fill in your own punchline.-JD
Maybe Ollie can meld “Let’s go Mets” with “Yes we can” and put himself into a good mindset.
The Fox game here in the midwest is Tribe at Twins so I can see how things are going with Carlos Gomez. Leo Mazzone is the analyst. Can’t believe no one hired him after the O’s dumped him.
Is Mr. Buck on vacation already? It’s horrendous how much he probably gets paid for not even doing his job all of the time.
David trying to wrap up the MVP in April, eh?
When’s the last time the Mets faced five left-handed starters in a row? Jeez.
JD,
How important do think this series is for the Mets? Let’s say they win EITHER today or tomorrow and thus take 2 of 3. Do we say the Philly hex is over? That the Mets have turned a corner in general?
To JM: The Mets said the Philly thing was an aberration and that every year is different. If they win back-to-back series vs. Phillies, in their mind they would have proven themselves right. Them believing it is what is important. As far as turning the corner, if they win today they will have won five straight and eight of ten. Yeah, I would say they turned a corner.-JD
Alex –
Thanks for the clarification – if you want to talk FCC etc. with the Congress, Senator Arlen Spector is your contact – he is furious with the ‘vanity networks’ NFL etc. and has already had several hearings.
I feel your pain about the out of market situation – I’m seeing the Mets today, but not always.
Spiderpig – what was that last question you asked me? Don’t want to go searching in the back comments
Yeah, that’s a good answer, JD. They need good mental health more than anything I think.
I like these quick starts – is Willie giving pep talks before the game?
Spiderpig –
Do you really miss Joe Buck?
I’d much rather see/listen to Timmy. (I have an autographed offical scorecard (Mets/Expos) from him on my office door to this day)
Annie – It’s Kenny Albert who is replacing Buck; McCarver is always there, meaning on the first team. I think so far today, McCarver has been talking too much, though, saying some random things, so I would rather have Buck. :) I think the last question I asked was about #21 on Hawkins and you answered it.
Spiderpig,
I hardly think Tim McCarver is prone to discursive musings haha. We know, we know, you caught Seaver.
Lots of Alberts in the sports announcing business – Marv started his own dynasty, didn’t he – have we gotten to the grandchildren yet?
Buck/McCarver is no contest for me :) Timmie Played the game for four decades – and Bucks background is Dad, right?
Wow, that is a big strikeout for Ollie w/ 2 men on. I think Howard is like 1 – 15 for his career against Ollie now.
These Phillies uniforms are kind of ugly.
Annie – It doesn’t matter if you prefer McCarver over Buck; they’re exclusive and don’t replace each other. Buck doesn’t have playing experience, so he is the play-by-play man.
I think Rosenthal just referred to Kenny as Jenny because he was about to say Jamie Moyer.
Why can’t Perez bottle this and save it for his next start?-JD
John – Is Elias working on that stat? For that matter, when’s the last time any team has faced five left-handed starting pitchers in a row?
Must. Score. More. Runs.
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t the trade between the Nats and Mets, Church and Brian for Lastings. Then Paulie signed with them?
JM: Yeah. Moyer has kept the Phillies in the game. I have this nagging feeling two won’t be enough.-JD
John – In these recent winning games, how long has each starting pitcher lasted?
To pvhornet05: That is correct.-JD
JD,
The Phils will not be shut out, not in this ballpark, not against the Mets. They gotta find a way to add on.
McCarver usually doesn’t bother me too much, but he’s going over the top today. :(
Hopefully, Perez’s hand survives that ill-advised fielding attempt.
Annie – Pelfrey: 7
Maine: 6 2/3
Figueroa: 7
Santana: 7+
It’s also good to see a return to the scoring in the first inning trend. I believe the announcers said the Mets have scored in seven straight first innings. That odor is clearing.
Delcos, when would the Mets ever have enough for you to be optimistic? It’s not even worth you commenting, you’re so damn predictable. As for Ollie “bottling” this for the next start, I’ll take him continuing to do this in this start and worry about the next one then. Ollie is what he is, if you don’t understand that by now, not sure what to tell you.
Well Ollie has 80 pitches through 5 innings, so the bullpen is also gonna have to be good.
Since the announcers are talking about it, it got me to thinking. If Sanchez didn’t get in that taxi accident, the Mets wouldn’t have Perez, but they probably would have Bannister, since I don’t think the Mets would have needed to trade for a righty reliever at that point either.
1 more out.
To Spiderpig: And, they would also have Xavier Nady.-JD
“You can squeegee up.” – McCarver on the opposite fielder when the hitter is taking defensive swings
To Metsfan: Take off your blue and orange glasses and get a look at the real world.-JD
interesting hypothetical spiderpig.
but i doubt that bannister would still be here regardless. given how the mets front office seems to put a higher premium on tools, it’s likely bannister would have been included in some other trade.
too bad perez and his “tools” couldn’t get out of that inning. now it’s bullpen time and here comes jimmy rollins…great.
Spiderpig –
Thanks for the pitchers innings. I’d have left a couple of these guys in….in any case, I think the number of innings pitched by the starter is a factor in these wins.
I am not a fan of bullpen pitchers.
in general i’m not a fan of bullpen pitchers either, but the return of sanchez to this bullpen certainly makes the mets a lot better.
now we need some insurance runs. at least 2.
Yes Delcos, you’re right, I should take a look at the “real world.” Must be great having a job where you cover and write about the “real world.” I”m a damn baseball fan, I love the Mets, but this ain’t anywhere close to being the “real world,” its baseball. You should get a grip there Delcos. My life doesn’t revolve around this, but my glasses are orange and blue…because I’m a Mets fan and always will be.
oh, and you can question me all you want, and I know i’m a homer for this team, but I don’t care. I still know I know this team inside out better then most, weaknesses and strengths. I just choose to be optimistic during a game because….I want them to win!
alex – There ya go! José, José José José…!
thank you ryan howard’s fielding and thank you jose reyes’s bat.
Schoeneweis in for the Mets.-JD
Yay – Jose is BACK!!!
metfans – Delcos is a writer and has to be objective, not optimistic, but I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. I guess he’s being pessimistic, but it’s his opinion.
I can’t imagine why Willie didn’t double-switch Sanchez into the game. That’s pretty stupid, especially if his next choice is Schoeneweis against a right-handed batter. But, as I type this, Taguchi grounds out.
Metsfan: I don’t question you at all. Questioning you would imply you might be right once in awhile. If you really knew this team, you wouldn’t say half the things you do.-JD
i’d say it’s being realistic…to think that 2 runs wouldn’t be enough.
especially given the way the games vs the phils have played out recently.
I just don’t like Delcos because he’s constantly down on my favorite team, and he just happens to write about them. Now, if you wrote objectively, he would be more like Adam Rubin or David Lennon, true objective reporters. Delcos’ idea of objectivity is giving the reader a slant on what is wrong, rarely mentioning what is right.
Yu go Delcos.. MESFAN NOT is not only a “despicable” metsfan he’s a despicable human being. Metsfan not, go make your own blog then you can write all you want how “despicable” you are because nobody will go to your blog.
Metsfan –
For those of us who truly love the game, the real world disappears when we are at “the game” or, watching/listening at home.
Every day we store up memories, I’m lucky, I’ve had some since childhood with my Dad.
On WFAN, Tony Paige often has a theme for his overnite show. When Mother’s and Father’s Days come around, he asks for our memories. Those are some of the best shows on radio.
we don’t like you metsfan not because you are so rude to the host of this site. If he was as bad as you claim he’s ban you for being so “despicable” to him.
go work for a big league team with big league fans Delcos not “despicable” people like metsfan not.
you make all the metsies in the world look despicable because of your despicable behavior. all of the parking lot in queens is ashamed the metsies play there because of a despicable human like you mets fan not.
Willie Randolph said he would never lose faith in Aaron Heilman. Let’s see if Heilman rewards him for that faith.-JD
Oh boy. Return of the ugly pen.
This should be fun; Heilman’s time for redemption or more suctoin. Let’s watch!
Ruiz always goes to right field against the Mets, drives me nuts.
Is Billy Wagner ever used for a 5 out save? Or is he too busy putting rookies in their place?
This is what Willie gets for not double-switching and using Sanchez for only 1/3 of an inning.
It’s like they turn their brains off if they get a small lead.
Once again Heilman …..trouble in pressure situations.
Randolph’s faith in Heilman is rewarded although he made it tense.
Heilman finished off that inning strong. Maybe this is what he needed.-JD
Wow, hats off to Aaron. His teammates made him earn 3 outs instead of 2, and he did it.
Nevermind….. I take that back…..sort of..
YES, Heilman redeeming himself with 2 huge K’s, gotta give some love to Schneider for that stop too. It’s all about the win. LETS GO METS!
phew.
heilman finds some redemption spelled with two k’s.
mets need take a seminar from the Rockies in defense..
Hah! I love whats his face throwing at Ortiz… nothing like a little chin music..
Well that was a fun inning.
Reyes: “Beltran, did you bring the brain today?”
Beltran: “No Jose, I thought you were bringing it. How ‘bout you Pagan?”
Pagan: “You guys know I share with Delgado.”
Seriously…nothing comes easy for this team.
I keep having naughty dreams about Harry Calas.
A rare sight to see from Castillo..
man, marlon is struggling this year. i know, generally speaking, it’s not how pinch hitters usually approach at bats, but i’d like to see him try and work the count a bit more.
looks like those 2 insurance runs i asked for are all we’re gonna get. hopefully they hold up.
I always think its pretty clever how they fit the advertising with the related baseball vocabulary on the radio
That flyball kept drifting..two more outs for our first place Mets..
Well, that was easy, wasn’t it? Will get back to you after the clubhouse.-JD
like I said earlier full count, two outs… nothing easy
Amazing – the little streak is Growing!! ” It’s in the Books” says Howie and we await Pelfrey tomorrow.
nice victory.
wagner has been outstanding so far this year. hopefully he keeps it up. i think the switch to the wind up has definitely been contributing.
hopefully big pelf and the boys can step on their necks tomorrow and get the sweep.
enjoy your saturday night everyone…
So much for the curse.
John, horrible move putting Heilman in the game. I don’t care if he got out of it.. He’s pitching basically every game, and at this point he’s on pace to pitch OVER 100 innings. The Mets have pitched him 173 innings the past two years, they’re gunna blow his arm out.
Not to mention he had ABSOLUTELY no command today, and thanks to Schneider he got out with only one run today.
Roger your right about Heilman being over used but as far as his command today, I thought it was pretty good. 2 k’s against Jenkins and Werth is pretty good. And the last pitch to Werth had some movement on it.
The other guy who I think needs a break is Joe Smith, he is starting to look a little tired, but what do I know right?
I agree Heilman’s overuse is cause for concern, but what alternative did Willie have but to put Heilman in the game? Righties have owned Feliciano this year, and Heilman was the only guy ready to go (other than Sosa, who’s being saved for long relief). As it is, Heilman got the Mets out of the inning.
Roger: Preserving Heilman is important, but they were saving Jorge Sosa for the possibility of extra innings. Randolph had to go with Heilman in that spot because he already used Duaner Sanchez. There were no other options.-JD
nice to see a win. Even nicer will be seeing Pelfrey get in 7 innings, preferably pitching with a huge lead after the Mets rake Kendrik early and often, then pile on the BP. The pen could probably use some rest. Sosa can be the only relief if the plan works!
some other randon thoughts:
Heilmann showed stones handling the bases loaded situation. Nice job.
Delgado’s OK start seems to have fizzled out. He is getting dangerously close to the Mendoza line, and is already hitting below Castillo (with about the same power!) If this continues, the Mets might be forced to make a move. Or we will have to start hoping for a DL trip to force the issue. Call up Bignhamton!
Oh, Delgado also looks like he really needs ALou back to help him out.
Endy continues to look like an extraneous piece of this team. Yes, we will always have “the catch”, but he hasn’t done too much (a couple of ABs) since then. Frankly, not sure we would miss him if he disappeared, and more than Clark. Wonder if the rumored off season trade (with Detroit maybe?) was real or not?
DW certainly is having a better April this year. Man, if he replicates last year May+, look out!
Now just have to get Beltran in a groove, and this team could really start cranking. He should be due for a nice hot streak soon.
After 16 games it is very difficult to extrapolate how many inn. any pitcher is going to go. Come back after 40 games w/those kinds of stats.
However, it would be good if Pelf could figure out a way to go 6-7 and the Mets score 6-8 runs so that Sosa can come in and mop up.
However, I see that Eaton goes tomorrow and for whatever reason Mets are keeping him and Moyer employed and keeping their ERAs under 6 since both seem to have Mets mezmorized w/their “super stuff”.
stick, is it Kendrik? I hope so b/c it says on Mets.com it is Eaton.
great minds think alike, as I stated same as you on getting inn out of Pelf and lots of runs.
don’t give up on Endy. Pagan can’t keep this up and he has made a couple of poor plays in the field. Sooner or later Endy will be in there, if for no other reason for defense.
Delagdo not only seems to have lost his bat speed but also his thought process. Every pitcher is going away, away, away and he keeps on trying to hit that away junk to RF. he is not making any adjustments.
could be Eaton. I was going based on the earlier rotation, but they may have reorganized it.
Eaton has done OK this year, but come on, he is still Eaton. And, since they have already faced him, it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see them light him up big time.
Scoop, I agree that Delgado seems to be regressing. And I am starting to think something will have to give sooner, not later.
sure it is Eaton, but the guy has Mets #.
Hey Daffy (Hello from DC) – Just to finish our conversation from the other day—As a Yankee fan do you really want to bring up choke? Does the year 2004 bring up pleasant memories for you? Too long ago? Well then how about midges? Babe Ruth aint playin’ anymore and even the Rocket retired!!!
clm: I know that little metsie suffer from a lot of things because they are metsies and get no respect from the baseball world, but come on clm, are you so low on the grey matter that youthink I’m a yankee fan??? oh, little metsies assume everyone is a yankee fan because they KNOW there are so few little metsies in the world!
but since you only understand yankees lets compare…. the yankees have been in the playoffs lets see how many years in a row?? its so high a little metsie can’t count the playoff years on all his little fingers. what about the metsies???? oh a couple when valentine was in charge and one whole playoff appearance under the new regime. wow little metsies for all the money you spend you sure have little to show for it… no wonder little metsies are such bitter people…......
and as for 2004 little clm i guess its worse to be the yankees to have lost in the playoff, than to be the metsies who didn’t make the playoffs which is the case in most years of their pathetic second rate hisrtory, the metsies the # 3 team in nyc forever, relegated to a dirty parking lot in queens because nobody wants their “despicable” fans in the neighborhood…..
all that money wasted while the yankees go to the playoffs every single freakin year, and you stay home and hide your metsie shirts one more time because you are so ashamed…..
poor metsie clm. you have indeed suffered enough…..
well little metsie clm how does it feel, wherever you go in the world people are wearing yankee hats and shirts and there are no metsies shirts and hats to be seen… how does it feel to be 2nd rate, even your owner doesn’t want to own the metsies. he dreams of owning the dodgers… at least the steinbrenners want to own their own team!!!!!
Daffy – got to hand it to you – you make me laugh – Later man.
glad I make a little metsie happy clm, especially after you had that terrible loss to the Phillies…. what a sad event for the metsies.