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Mets Chat: Some things becoming apparent to me.

Posted by: John Delcos - Posted in Uncategorized on Mar 15, 2008

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Things could change, but I’m betting on Orlando Hernandez, Duaner Sanchez and Ruben Gotay opening the season on the disabled list.

As of now, I think Carlos Beltran, Brian Schneider and Luis Castillo will be sound enough to open the season on time. The guy I wouldn’t take the chance with is Schneider because hamstrings can only get worse.

 
 
 
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75 Responses to “Mets Chat: Some things becoming apparent to me.”


  1. dave

    I am waiting to hear complaints about the washed up veterans that are injured and not pulling their weight. How they are a black hole on this team.

    I am referring to Sanchez and Gotay.

  2. alex

    given that both schneider and castro are battling hamstrings (not too mention, castro having spent time on the dl every season he’s been a met) who is currently occupying the 3rd catcher spot on the depth chart?

  3. metsfan

    cancel has looked like a decent 3rd catcher, he’s got some pop in his bat and looks at least decent behind the plate. For a 3rd catcher, he’ll do.

  4. hello from DC

    hi little metsie dave: do you cry when someone picks on one of your washed up big metsies? did you hear what that big bad jimmy rollins said? He said the Phils were gonna be the team to beat forever as long as he’s playing. he’ll be in all your metsie heads again this year. he’s a man.

    newyorkmetsies…the team that gets no respect, anywhere!!!!!

  5. The Man

    Pedro Martinez will be making his grapefruit debut tomorrow in Port St. Lucie against the visiting Detroit Tigers. You would think that with the Tigers having to take a 5-6 hour bus ride for tomorrow’s exhibition game, Pedro Martinez would have an easy day. You know, facing some backups, some has-beens, or some never-will-be’s, but just how it’s a coincidence that all Johan Santana starts are at home (ON TV) and that Pedro is making his debut at home (ON TV) the Tigers are bringing Miguel Cabrera, Magglio Ordonez, Ivan Rodriguez, and Carlos Guillen.

  6. Polter

    Phils are a 3rd place team at best this year. I couldn’t care less what any of them have to say. LOL

  7. Mike C.

    Traded Milledge for a pair of boots and a sandwich… and the sandwich won’t be able to even make Opening Day because of his hammy.

    Every day you think that trade can’t get worse, y’know, it finds a way.

    Life finds a way to survive, that trade finds a way to get worse.

  8. metsfan

    Schneider will be fine for opening day, but you keep telling yourself what you have to to convince yourself that trade was bad. When Milledge does anything at the major league level, then you talk to me.

  9. Mike C.

    He hit .270 at the age of 21, despite injury, a clubhouse that hated him for taking the at-bats away from washed-up nice-guys… and a NYC press that hated him for being young gifted and black.

    Considering that’s what Church hit, at the ceiling of his talent, nearly thirty, in the zero-pressure zone of the Washington Expos… well…

    Lets define what it is to “do something at the major league level”, you know?

    With seven years more life experience than Milledge, Church still can’t hit left handed pitching at the major league level for a corner outfielder.

    Who’s only going to grow at the major league level and who has long and well proven himself to be a fine platoon outfielder but in no way a full-time player?

    A platoon outfielder and a catcher who can’t even stay healthy enough to hit his .230 on Opening Day do NOT equal the potential of Lastings Milledge.

    There’s gonna come a day when the press is savaging them for being scrubs as everyday players while The Edge is blooming in an organization that lets him play and… that’s gonna be really funny, is all I’m saying.

    The Tick said it best, man, you can’t fight evil with a macaroni duck.

    I mean, a macaroni duck is pretty and polite and won’t ever anger anybody but… it also can’t hit a baseball, you know.

    Give me someone who has the potential to actually hit a baseball, even if he… gasp... gets himself involved in the hip and the hop music and makes Bill Cosby cry.

    Upside forever, team chemistry never.

  10. metsfan

    i’m just wondering, are you a fan that demands this team to win this year because of how bad last year was? That you’re fed up with how they lost last year, and consider this a win now team? Or are you a fan who’s willing to sacrafice a year, doesn’t really care about making this a winning year? If you’re of the latter, i’d understand not wanting to trade Milledge. It’d be nice to see if he’ll amount to anything in the future. However, for this year, if you want to win with who we have, Milledge was not going to adding to that, sorry. He’s not an everyday player on a winning team, too many mental mistakes. As for Church not being able to hit lefties, please, stop listening to talk radio, and actually look at the stats. For a lefty, Church’s career averages against lefties are on par with how most lefties far against lefty pitchers as compared to the overall averages. Look at the damn stats, they tell the story. Not 100 ABs from one season and talking heads on the radio. And again, Schneider will be ready for opening day. This is spring, if it was the season, I bet he’s back there. Oh by the way, Milledge basically got on base at the same clip as that catcher you speak so fondly of. Way to be an offensive force! Grass is always greener MIke C. I LOVE MILLEDGE, hahaha, whatever man, you’re grasping on strings here.

  11. NR

    Mike C has a man crush on Milledge ..BTW Milledge hasn’t played in 2 games because of a sore foot.

  12. Mike C.

    Hardly a man-crush.

    Just an… astonishment at how you can trade your rightfielder for the next fifteen years for a platoonist and a back-up catcher.

    I basically still can’t wrap my head around it.

  13. sloppy

    NR Milledge hasn’t played in 2 whole games????? Wow, he’d fit in perfetly with this teasm wouldn’t he. I love you Milledge haters. He’s always bad or terrible but Church is always perfect. You’ll be cryting in Spetember… for the next 15 years or so….

    And Metsfan…. Since I’m a fan who demands to have Omar be a man of his word and win now, I want talent on my team not mediocrwe losers who will help this team lose again…. You are the type of fan who loved the Fregosi/Ryan trade because that bum Ryan had control problems…....... His career stats were terrible. Good thing the Mets dumped him for that outdtanding washed up mediocrity…. And schneder will be ready. Wow… another catcher on his last legs will be ready, ready for what? to watch him deteriorate by the day like the last 1?

  14. scoopcoop

    slop, Mike C and anyone else who can’t stand Church (not that I’m a big supporter either, but he will serve his purpose of a 6th/7th place hitter)

    since your so hung up on Church and his mediocrity, give us your prediction for his #s this season.

    Is it same as last yr, or much worse like .240/12/50?

    Put up some numbers guys since he stinks so bad.

  15. JK

    I predict the pair of boots is going to have a better year (OPS, RC) than the player he replaced.

    I also think the sandwich won’t do any worse with the bat than the weak numbers Lo Duca put up last year, but he’ll be better than Lo Duca controlling the running game and will work well with the pitching staff.

    More Predictions:

    Mets win 95 games and the NL East. Here’s how I see the final standings:

    1. Mets
    2. Braves
    3. Phillies
    4/5. Nats and Marlins battle it out for last place.

    As for El Duque not being ready, he may never be this year if his new delivery doesn’t work out. If that’s the case, as I said before, I have no problems with Pelfrey being the #5 starter. He’s ready to take the next step and will do at least a serviceable job in the fifth slot and put up better numbers than he did last year. If given at least 10 or more starts, I think he can put up an ERA of roughly 4.50 which is acceptable for a #5.

  16. JK

    Prediction on Delgado? His numbers will be worse than last year. I expect a falloff of at least 10-15%. But with the improvement in offense from RF and SS, and the big improvement in the pitching staff, the Mets can withstand Delgado’s continued falloff. Just as long as it’s not huge. A huge drop and there could be trouble.

  17. letsgometsgo

    scoopcoop: why give predictions? the guy above proves that predictions with no basis in anything like those above are for those that know nothing about everything.

  18. Kyle

    The Milledge trade was alright in my book. Church is so good against righties, whatever he gets us against lefties is a plus. Also don’t u hear what milledge is saying in washington, why would we want that poison in our clubhouse. I think it was addition by subtraction, and we got a starting catcher and RF.

  19. Kyle

    Church

    AB R HR RBI BB KO SB BA
    497 77 18 83 46 115 9 .279

    Delgado

    AB R HR RBI BB KO SB BA
    529 75 26 93 52 116 2 .261

  20. dave

    Mike C,

    I cannot believe you pulled the race card on LM.

    If you take a look at skin color on this team, a decided majority does not have white skin.

    Most of the stars on this team are not white and yet somehow the NYC press seems to like them.

    Try again.

  21. dave

    hello from DC,

    Do your parents know you blog? You sound like you need parental supervision.

    You sound like a 3 year old whining for a lollypop.

  22. scoopcoop

    The prediction was to smoke out those who don’t like the Milledge trade. It was a psychological test. This is the third time I mentioned it in the last 2 days.

    And I find it is interesting that the people who keep complaining about the Milledge trade won’t make any predicitions on Church’s numbers. I predict they will point out every time he fails but never point out any successes.

    Alot of whining and complaining but no guts to state what Church will do. If he is going to be so bad, give some numbers. I’m no big fan but I think he will be fine, .270/.280/15-20/70-75 in about 500AB.

    The trade is done. Get over it. Move on.

  23. scoopcoop

    and let’s remember, Church and Schiender didn’t ask to be here. It isn’t there fault that they are here.

  24. hello from DC

    hi metsies and goodie goodie dave; i thought you nyc losers could at least give a big league response, but like everything else metsie, its poor, poor team, poor fans, i hear your wonderful new stadium is a parking lot, first class, i guess no neighborhood or downtown wanted you second class people….

    mets and knicks 2 of a kind…......overpaid and underperform!!!!!!! yankees #1 in nyc , metsies # 2…. even your giants left the state for a swamp!!!! says it all…...

    see all you metsies when the games count…... hope there’s no limit to the DL list or to the bigot list. well, maybe church wants the bigot list all to himself….

  25. sloppy

    scoop you want numbers.

    schneider 218. 4 HRs and loses his job at the All Star break to Carlos Beltran who JK says has to move out of the physically demanding CF.

    Church.. 261. 15 HRS crashes into Easley and Valentin and has a third degree and a first degree concussion from each collision and has to retire from the game. Now you have seen how stupid predicitions are as well as how stupid your posts have become….. hapy now scoop…. when you stop sniffing form the wilpon minaya kool aide cup you can resume being the interesting poster you once were…. until then….......

    church and schneider didn’t ask to come here???? hey, they can go to japan or korea or mexico…..

  26. JK

    Agree with dave. Playing the race card with Milledge is incredibly weak. To say the NY media didn’t like him because he’s black, young and gifted is ludicrous. He was criticized because of his immaturity and behavior, not because of his skin color.

  27. JK

    Since Kyle gave more specific predictions here are mine for Church and Delgado.

    Church – 19 HRs, 85 RBIs, .840 OPS
    Delgado – 20 HRs, 80 RBIs, .760 OPS

    They can live with this from Delgado, though if he can revert to his 2006 form (highly unlikely), they can run away from the rest of the division. They still might, but I don’t see it. They should still win the division easily, though.

  28. JK
    • ... Carlos Beltran who JK says has to move out of the physically demanding CF

      Yes, eventually. After this year. If they want to continue to get 140+ games out of him for the remainder of his contract.

      Of course they don’t need to do it if they are happy with seeing the number of games he plays diminish every year.

  29. metsfan

    MILLEDGE WILL BE OUR RIGHFEILDER FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS? HAHAHAHA, MIKE C. , you’ve totally lost it man. How could you believe that? Milledge is not a franchise type player, there’s no way he’s stay on our team for that long if we kept him. You’re funny man, very funny.

  30. hello from DC

    dave wrote “Do your parents know you blog? You sound like you need parental supervision.”

    dave my parents are dead… does that make you happy that you have to go after dead people? no wonder everyone has no repsect for your fans… you can’t respond without going third person….

  31. metsfan

    some fans can just never get over the past, they’d rather harp on the organization for making a trade then move forward with what we have. Living in the past, man, that must suck? But i’m sure you’re whole life is like that Mike C. Time to grow up, be a man, accept what’s in front of you. Milledge is gone, stop living in the past. He’s not that good, and you continually calling Church a platoon outfielder and Schneider a backup catcher doesn’t make that true. You can listen to talk radio all you want and pretend those guys are right, but it doesn’t make it right.

  32. sloppy

    Keith: You were right about one thing the other day. Its time for real games.

  33. Keith

    Ain’t it the truth?

  34. Little naties

    hello from DC,

    what do you aspect a met fan to say to your moronic post when you come on here and say stupid things. Is it because your little natsies don’t have there own blog to spew your nonsense. It makes you look like a loser dude. It’s people like you that fans all over the world don’t like, you make people from DC look bad.

  35. scoopcoop

    .218 Scheinder and .260/15 HRs Church-I guess that is why you think the Mets can’t win slop.

    Maybe you should just take up something else to occupy your time since Mets stink.

  36. Patrick

    Mike C.: Milledge can’t hit righties. Let’s not crown him as anybody’s right fielder for the next 15 years.

  37. scoopcoop

    But I’ll give you credit slop. At least you made a prediction instead of just whining.

    Are you still hung up on the Kazmir trade? or how about the Nolan Ryan one?

    Mike C where is your Scheinder and Church prediction?

  38. sloppy

    Lets see scoop coop I play your little game and i made you for a fool and you give me credit? Grow up, ....
    There’s more interesting discussion on sesame street then you guys provide here anymore. When you meet your boy church don’t forget to bring toilet paper since you like to…...

  39. Scott from Pelham

    This is last thing I will every say on the Milledge trade.
    On pure talent this was a bad trade, except many times trades involve more than talent. I think it is apparent the Milledge rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in the clubhouse.
    Look when even David Wright told Milledge to shut up about his time in NY and worry about playing for his new team you have to think Milledge was becoming a major clubhouse problem the Mets were thinking would never go away.

    The reason I said trades sometimes involve more than talent is remember when the Mets got David Cone for Ed Hearn. One of the reasons the Royals traded him was because they thought his attitude was questionable at times. Cone did some stupid things when he was a Met but they were covered up by the team and have only come to light in recent years.

    So yes Milledge could turn out to be great or he could turn out to be his Baseball Prospectus comp which is Rondell White. Just have to wait and see on that.

    The Mets got two players who filled holes and have much more stable personalities for this team to win this year.

  40. Scott from Pelham

    btw: I am still pissed off at the Amos Otis for Joe Foy trade.

  41. Mike C.

    Milledge is 22 and so has AMPLE time to round out into a complete hitter and, barring major injury, all the tools are there to do so.

    Church’s numbers last year… dude’s 29, generally the peak of skills for a major professional athlete.

    Last year was Milledge’s floor, last year was Milledge’s ceiling.

    Church will hit just fine against righties but in a team already thin with age, injury and situational-player masquerading as position players, he’ll be a liability against lefties and leave the team scrambling to find someone to platoon with him and…

    There won’t be anybody to, there won’t be room on the roster, Easley’ll already be used to fill in for Delgado and/or Castillo and Endy’s bat will already be exposed filling in for Alou and… Pagan’s spring will have mostly proven to be a fluke and it’ll be questionable if there’s room on the 25 man roster for him anyway.

    Clark can’t field, Anderson can’t field AND he’s a lefty the same as Church and…

    Church’s inability to be a full-time player on a premiere team will either… (a) create outs by having to use him against lefties or (b) make the roster scramble all the more achingly tragic.

    Schneider can’t hit anybody, his defense isn’t as good as it was when he was younger to begin with and his hammy problems will linger well into the year.

    The Kazmir trade was at least for someone that some people thought might be good and Kazmir couldn’t contribute really to the team at the time… so its a lot more forgivable.

    Dumb? Sure… but there was a scenario where you could argue that people could think it a good short-run move at the time.

    Milledge should’ve been the every-day rightfielder last year and he was traded for two very nice bench pieces masquerading as awful every-day players.

    The trades are so different that the comparison is barely worth even noting.

  42. ChiliGTC

    wow….lot of angry fans out there! it’s springtime dammit. that means a time for new hope…let’s forget about milledge, kazmir, nolan ryan, amos otis, and the tom seaver trades and focus on the positive…the 2008 NY Mets and the hope for a world championship…

  43. Scott from Pelham

    Mike C. Now I know your off the reservation. You think the Kazmir trade was a better move than Milledge than you must be the only one.
    Most GM’s were shocked that the Mets got so little for Kazmir.

    The outcry has hardly been the same with Milledge.

    ChiliGTC
    I was joking about the Amos Otis trade.
    I wonder how many of you were born when that trade was made.

    btw on the Fergosi / Ryan trade Gil Hodges was pissed off.

    They made that trade when he was on vacation and never
    asked him about it.

  44. Mike C.

    I’m saying from my perspective, as a Met fan, the Kazmir trade was stupid… yeah… but at least I understood what they were going for.

    They thought they were getting something that could win now for him. There was at least an on-the-field logic to it. It was a huge miscalculation but at least it was a miscalculation borne out of trying to win ballgames.

    There was no on-the-field logic to dropping Milledge for two part-time players, there was only press logic in trading away a player who bled upside but might have been involved in rap music (gasp! what is this, 1953?) for two polite team-chemistry guys who can’t hit left-handed pitching to save their lives and will never be able to.

    There was only P.R. bullcrap and… yeah… there was an element of racism to it, absolutely.

  45. dave

    hello from DC

    I am sorry about your parents.

    However, you are still a child.

  46. Scott from Pelham

    Mike C: the Milledge trade was made for the same reason to win now.
    Will it be a miscalculation ? .......maybe.
    My question to you is will a trip to the WS this year be an acceptable result for making this trade.

  47. john

    mike c. where you from?

  48. Mike C.

    Originally: the depths of the Adirondack Mountains.

    Currently: the suburbs of Los Angeles.

    I do not see how giving up a growing prospect for two incomplete players helps “win now”... if Easley and Castro are healthy at all, they’re gonna be in platoons with those guys just to try and get anything out of them and… we had Easley and Castro to begin with.

    Giving up an everyday outfielder for a platoon outfielder and a defensive catcher whose defense is slipping and health is in question… I don’t see any timeframe wherein that is a move. For now, for the future, for anything.

    Some combination of Estrada and Castro was going to hit significantly better than The Schnide and Milledge could play everyday so…

    If anything…

    You’re losing games in a theoretical WS push in so far as you’ve gotta sub in for Church with lefties, on top of all the other problems incurred by the team.

  49. Keith

    “You’re losing games in a theoretical WS push in so far as you’ve gotta sub in for Church with lefties, on top of all the other problems incurred by the team.”

    Mike, you keep repeating yourself over and over again, and while you may ultimately be proven right over the course of 162 games, as it stands now you are wrong. The Mets acquired Church to play every day, not to platoon. Keith Hernandez was on Mike and the Dog the other day and mentioned how Church never was given a good chance to hit lefties and the only way a guy is going to learn is to get atbats… not to mention his career averages against lefties weren’t so terrible before last year.

    Anyway, my point is that the Mets got Church because they believe he will be the everyday RF. You may disagree and believe it will backfire, and that’s fine. But please stop making these definitive statements as if it is preordained that Easley is going to platoon with Church. The idea is NOT to have this happen. Obviously, it could happen if Church is putrid against lefties, but as it stands now, Church is not a platoon player.

  50. JK

    What a start from Pedro yesterday! It’s only ST, but for someone who underwent rotator cuff surgery just 1-1/2 years ago, it’s fantastic. Bodes well for the rotation which will be the Mets big strength this year. So here are my predictions for the starters:

    Santana – 33 GS, 2.90 ERA
    Pedro – 30 GS, 3.10 ERA
    Maine – 33 GS, 3.40 ERA
    Ollie – 30 GS, 3.70 ERA
    Pelfrey – 20 GS, 4.55 ERA
    El Duque – 5 GS, 5.30 ERA

    As for the idea of “losing games in a theoretical WS push” because of Church, they might lose even more games with Milledge in RF as his numbers against righties are worse than Church’s numbers vs. lefties (3-year splits).

    So the net result with Church in RF playing everyday vs. Milledge is likely to be winning more games. At least for this year.

    Milledge may have more upside, but it’s just as possible he will never be the hitter his fan club is projecting him to be.

  51. JK

    Mike C, since you seem so certain that Church is a dud and Milledge is an all-star, would you go out on a limb and say for certain that you believe Milledge will put up a better OPS+ than Church this year?

    I’m using OPS+ now since we don’t know at this point how the new park in DC will play, but it has smaller dimensions than Shea so I suspect it will be more of a hitters park. How much more remains to be seen.

  52. Keith

    JK, you’re wasting your time. Using any stats other than triple crown stats will earn you the title “fantasy league player.” Even though OPS+ is more valuable for evaluating a player’s skills, and isn’t used in fantasy leagues, while batting average and RBI are used in fantasy leagues and less accurate representations of a player’s offensive ability.

  53. JK
    • ... Using any stats other than triple crown stats will earn you the title “fantasy league player.”

      Who said such a preposterous thing, Keith? Triple crown stats are in fact more misleading than OPS+ since they are not park or league adjusted. And we all know that RBIs are heavily dependent on having men on base in front of you, and so to some extent it’s a team stat. Which is why someone like A-Rod who hits in a stacked Yankee lineup will always have an advantage.

      I think OPS+ is perhaps the single most useful stat to compare the relative offensive performances of two players.

      I would Mike C to give his predictions for Church and Milledge, specifically for OPS+.

  54. Keith

    “I think OPS+ is perhaps the single most useful stat to compare the relative offensive performances of two players.”

    JK, I am totally on board with everything you said. But whenever I post someone’s OPS+, OPS, or OBP I get labeled a fantasy baseball player who doesn’t understand “real” baseball (even though I played ball and coached for many years.)

  55. JK

    Keith, apart from the fact that OPS and OPS+ are more “real” than stats such as HRs or RBIs which have more of a deceptive element to them … those who can’t or won’t accept OPS or OPS+ as a superior way to compare players are close-minded and stuck-in-the-mud.

  56. Mike C.

    OPS+?

    I’m supposed to pull out an actuarial chart, here, to prove that a guy who is quite-nearly thirty isn’t going to get any better and a dude who’ll be twenty-two on Opening Day can only get better?

    Nah.

    Church will certainly hit respectably against righties, like a young Shawn Green with a little more speed and a good deal less power.

    And it’ll be ugly against lefties.

    Further, the dude will take a while to adapt to playing right field most of the time and be… certainly okay defensively but less defensively than most people think he’ll be outta the shoot.

    Will he be used as an everyday player at first?

    Of course, if only to justify discarding a player with legitimate upside and everyday-player skills to get him.

    But one hopes that the team will only bang their heads against the wall for so long before they find a solution.

    Of course, Willie kept using Horror Show against righties in high leverage situations so… yeah… there’s a possibility he’d rather stand by his original notions than do everything to succeed.

  57. JK
    • ... OPS+?

      Yes, OPS+.

      Are you going to keep side-stepping the question to keep repeating your spiel which is convincing no one except those already against the trade?

      Will you go on record saying you believe Milledge will have a higher OPS+ this year than Church? Or maybe you even know that is a long shot.

  58. JK

    Mike C, just a yes or no would suffice. You don’t have to give actual numbers.

  59. Keith

    “Of course, if only to justify discarding a player with legitimate upside and everyday-player skills to get him.”

    Why do you refuse to even entertain the idea that the franchise believes Church can be a fine everyday RF?

  60. Keith

    “I’m supposed to pull out an actuarial chart, here, to prove that a guy who is quite-nearly thirty isn’t going to get any better and a dude who’ll be twenty-two on Opening Day can only get better?”

    Or you could just visit their baseball-reference.com pages.

  61. JK
    • ... I’m supposed to pull out an actuarial chart, here, to prove that a guy who is quite-nearly thirty isn’t going to get any better and a dude who’ll be twenty-two on Opening Day can only get better?

      Red herring. Many of us who support the trade know that the age difference means that Milledge has more potential upside.

      But there’s no guarantee. And your saying “isn’t going to get any better” and “can only get better” is patently false. Because it’s entirely possible for a player to get better after the age of 30 and for one of Milledge’s age not to get any better. Maybe it’s semantics, but there’s an important distinction here. If you had merely said Milledge is more likely to improve going forward than Church, you would have a point.

  62. scoopcoop

    You guys can forget it. Mike C and sloppy won’t make any predictions (except sarcastic ones) b/c if you talk about #s, you can’t keep talking about how the trade is bad, blah, blah, blah.

    The trade might be good. It might be bad. Who knows.

    All I know is that the Mets have enough talent to be a playoff contender.

  63. letsgometsgo

    JK: Someone with ZERO credibility YOU JK, has no right to demand anything from anyone. Anyone such YOU JK who thinks centerfield is the most physically demanding position in baseball has only a right to ask politely for someone to teach him what baseball is about. Keith demonstrates his baseball knowledge but you only demonstrate your ignorance of the game, the love of the game doesn’t exist in someone such as yourself who probably never even played T-ball, much less little league, HS, legion or college ball. We fight with Kwith, but its all about loving the game, yoiu are just an idiot who thinks he knows something based on nothing. Your stupide predictions of the rotation, based on nothing, shows once again you are just someone who knows nothing but think shouting out junk makes him smart.

  64. sloppy

    Hey Keith, Its St patty’s day.. You forget your OPS and I’ll forget my opinions of Church for the day and lets have some good green beer. You know and I know this is killing time until something real happens. Until then, enjoy the day….... after I rip this guy who is being a kitty litter box or something…..

    Scoop poop: Do you bring toilet paper to the games when everybody else brings gloves and sharpies? I’d tell you to have a green beer but you wouldn’t know how to enjoy it…..

  65. Keith

    sloppy, I’m more a black and tan man myself, but cheers to you all the same.

  66. JK

    LGMG: Wow, more personal insults. I am so impressed with your maturity level and demonstration of baseball knowledge. Not to mention your credibility.

    It’s sad that when some people read things they don’t like the best they can do is name-calling and throwing around personal insults.

  67. sloppy

    Keith: I had to become a Sam Adams guy when they saved the workers at the Latrobe Rolling Rock brewery when Bud bouth Rolling Rock and thru them all out on the street. Sam Adams one of the few American companies whose actually helped American workers.
    JK: Another one whose fandom is blind loyalty., except his is to himself alone.

  68. JK

    Sloppy: Another one who thinks personal insults and juvenile name calling is a substitute for substance.

  69. hello from DC

    JK: I must admit your brain power is far superior to these little Metsies fans surrounding you. I’ve read your posts and I’m most interested in your thoughts on cheating… I think you wrote that cheating is doing something that helps get you a competitive advantage, is that right?

  70. JK

    Since LGMG loves my predictions, here are some more:

    Schneider – 8 HRs, 58 RBIs, .710 OPS
    Reyes – 17 HRs, 80 RBIs, .850 OPS

    ;)

  71. scoopcoop

    Sloopy, is it necessary to make such comments?

    All I asked was for just one positive you see on the Mets and you become insulting. I take it from your silence that there is nothing to be positive about. I guess you better drink alot of that beer that I don’t want.

    What a cry baby.

  72. sloppy

    OK OK since you little girls like predicitions so much, my prediction is that someone is tracking IP addresses and when they track down JK he will be fired for using company computers and company time to play on the internet…...

  73. JK

    And since sloppy is such a huge fan of my predictions too, here’s one just for her:

    Milledge will manage to be controversial in DC this year too, even though their veterans supposedly are more understanding of kids like him than the Mets’ veterans.

  74. sloppy

    Oh JK, did you spend the entire afternoon at work dreaming up that line…? Did you show your boss how smart you are? Don’t you feel guilty ripping off your employer?

  75. JK

    No one has to dream up a prediction like that about Milledge. He’s a magnet for controversy, and his life has been filled with it at almost every age. Only those who aren’t very smart can’t see that.

    And I hope they fix the time stamping on this site for your sake. It’s confusing the hell out of you. I made that comment very early in the afternoon.



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