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	<title>Comments on: One more time on Johnson vs. Santana</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/02/07/one-more-time-on-johnson-vs-santana/comment-page-1/#comment-32878</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike C., you make some good points, but you need to be issues a citation by the hyperbole police.

&quot;The Mets took two steps back in their offense by committing to Castillo and throwing away Milledge and Estrada for the anemic bats of Schneider and Churchâ€¦ &quot;

How do you figure?  What did Milledge do that was so fantastic?  You call Church&#039;s offense anemic, but have you checked out his stats?  His offense last year was comparable to a normal Aaron Rowand season.  Remember, Paul O&#039;Neill didn&#039;t become &quot;Paul O&#039;Neill&quot; until he came to the Yankees.  While he certainly isn&#039;t O&#039;Neill now, and most likely will never be as good as him, he is far from &quot;anemic&quot; as you put it.

Schneider is not here for his bat.  He is here to play defense.  He&#039;s going to get about 100 games with Castro getting the other 62.  Everyone forgets this.  Schneider/Castro is going to be a nice catching situation.

I don&#039;t understand how the Nationals misusing Church constitutes any kind of valid judgment of his skills.  Last I checked the Nationals/Expos were a poorly run organization.  I also don&#039;t put a lot into Bowden&#039;s evaluation of Church.  Much like Minaya, he&#039;s spent his first few seasons there bringing in &quot;his&quot; guys: Wily Mo, Kearns, Young, etc.  

I really hate to have to be the one to always defend Church, because I come across as making the guy out to be the second coming, but this just isn&#039;t the case.  He&#039;s not going to turn into Shawn Green circa 1999, however I also doubt he&#039;s going to be Todd Hollansworth.  IMO, Church is going to be a solid everyday OF who sometimes sits against tough lefties.  

As for his defensive abilities, even if he&#039;s not very familiar with RF, he HAS to have more range than Shawn Green circa 2007.  

As for Castillo, while I would have much rather seen them just hand over the position to Gotay, let&#039;s not pooh pooh Castillo&#039;s contributions.  He played very well down the stretch last year, gave us a legit #2 hitter for the first time in a few years, and he is a maestro at turning the double play, even with his diminished skills.  You could do a lot worse than Luis Castillo.

I share your concerns about Alou and Delgado, however I will say this: if healthy, Alou will hit.  The guy is a very good hitter, even at this advanced age.  I&#039;m willing to give Delgado the benefit of the doubt.  He&#039;s in pretty good shape, and should come into the season stronger since he did not have to endure two offseason surgeries this year.  Yes, I am aware he broke his arm, but a broken bone is usually easier to come back from than ligament surgery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike C., you make some good points, but you need to be issues a citation by the hyperbole police.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Mets took two steps back in their offense by committing to Castillo and throwing away Milledge and Estrada for the anemic bats of Schneider and Churchâ€¦ &#8221;</p>
<p>How do you figure?  What did Milledge do that was so fantastic?  You call Church&#8217;s offense anemic, but have you checked out his stats?  His offense last year was comparable to a normal Aaron Rowand season.  Remember, Paul O&#8217;Neill didn&#8217;t become &#8220;Paul O&#8217;Neill&#8221; until he came to the Yankees.  While he certainly isn&#8217;t O&#8217;Neill now, and most likely will never be as good as him, he is far from &#8220;anemic&#8221; as you put it.</p>
<p>Schneider is not here for his bat.  He is here to play defense.  He&#8217;s going to get about 100 games with Castro getting the other 62.  Everyone forgets this.  Schneider/Castro is going to be a nice catching situation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how the Nationals misusing Church constitutes any kind of valid judgment of his skills.  Last I checked the Nationals/Expos were a poorly run organization.  I also don&#8217;t put a lot into Bowden&#8217;s evaluation of Church.  Much like Minaya, he&#8217;s spent his first few seasons there bringing in &#8220;his&#8221; guys: Wily Mo, Kearns, Young, etc.  </p>
<p>I really hate to have to be the one to always defend Church, because I come across as making the guy out to be the second coming, but this just isn&#8217;t the case.  He&#8217;s not going to turn into Shawn Green circa 1999, however I also doubt he&#8217;s going to be Todd Hollansworth.  IMO, Church is going to be a solid everyday OF who sometimes sits against tough lefties.  </p>
<p>As for his defensive abilities, even if he&#8217;s not very familiar with RF, he HAS to have more range than Shawn Green circa 2007.  </p>
<p>As for Castillo, while I would have much rather seen them just hand over the position to Gotay, let&#8217;s not pooh pooh Castillo&#8217;s contributions.  He played very well down the stretch last year, gave us a legit #2 hitter for the first time in a few years, and he is a maestro at turning the double play, even with his diminished skills.  You could do a lot worse than Luis Castillo.</p>
<p>I share your concerns about Alou and Delgado, however I will say this: if healthy, Alou will hit.  The guy is a very good hitter, even at this advanced age.  I&#8217;m willing to give Delgado the benefit of the doubt.  He&#8217;s in pretty good shape, and should come into the season stronger since he did not have to endure two offseason surgeries this year.  Yes, I am aware he broke his arm, but a broken bone is usually easier to come back from than ligament surgery.</p>
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		<title>By: metsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>metsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think by Delcos posting this crap, he&#039;s being demeaning towards Mets fans intelligence.  WE KNOW Santana doesn&#039;t guarantee us anything, there&#039;s 162+ games to play, we&#039;re not stupid.  But we do know Santana is a hell of a pitcher, IT HELPS.  YOU CAN&#039;T DENY THAT.  Now enough with this, what about Randy Johnson thing?  It doesn&#039;t fit, every situation is different, every team is different, every year is different.  We&#039;ll see what happens, but we&#039;re not stupid enough to think all of a sudden we&#039;re guaranteed anything.  He&#039;s one pitcher (a great one) but he&#039;s one guy.  STOP INSULTING OUR INTELLIGENCE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think by Delcos posting this crap, he&#8217;s being demeaning towards Mets fans intelligence.  WE KNOW Santana doesn&#8217;t guarantee us anything, there&#8217;s 162+ games to play, we&#8217;re not stupid.  But we do know Santana is a hell of a pitcher, IT HELPS.  YOU CAN&#8217;T DENY THAT.  Now enough with this, what about Randy Johnson thing?  It doesn&#8217;t fit, every situation is different, every team is different, every year is different.  We&#8217;ll see what happens, but we&#8217;re not stupid enough to think all of a sudden we&#8217;re guaranteed anything.  He&#8217;s one pitcher (a great one) but he&#8217;s one guy.  STOP INSULTING OUR INTELLIGENCE.</p>
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		<title>By: OMAR PADILLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMAR PADILLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Scoop and slop but what about those two great teams  that didn&#039;t even make the playoffs?  The 85 Mets were a great team and the 87 team was great, and almost won despite the fact that every starter spent time on the DL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Scoop and slop but what about those two great teams  that didn&#8217;t even make the playoffs?  The 85 Mets were a great team and the 87 team was great, and almost won despite the fact that every starter spent time on the DL.</p>
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		<title>By: scoopcoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>scoopcoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slop, &quot;Weâ€™re certinly not the â€˜86 or â€˜88 team in depth or talent and one of them won and one of them didnâ€™t. Too many fans are running around like Yankee fans acting like the seasonâ€™s over.&quot;

If we were 86 or 88 teams we&#039;d be talking about a team that can easily win 95+. This team is a 90 win team. That is enough to make playoffs in NL. Once in, youv&#039;e got a chance.

Any fan who knows something about the game and is objective has to look at this team and say they have a chance. But if they are like most callers who call into the radio talk shows, I agree. They don&#039;t know BB and they think their hearts not their heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slop, &#8220;Weâ€™re certinly not the â€˜86 or â€˜88 team in depth or talent and one of them won and one of them didnâ€™t. Too many fans are running around like Yankee fans acting like the seasonâ€™s over.&#8221;</p>
<p>If we were 86 or 88 teams we&#8217;d be talking about a team that can easily win 95+. This team is a 90 win team. That is enough to make playoffs in NL. Once in, youv&#8217;e got a chance.</p>
<p>Any fan who knows something about the game and is objective has to look at this team and say they have a chance. But if they are like most callers who call into the radio talk shows, I agree. They don&#8217;t know BB and they think their hearts not their heads.</p>
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		<title>By: scoopcoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>scoopcoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tomg, &quot;Iâ€™m just worried about the mets. I donâ€™t care about the braves and phillies.&quot;

Care or not you have to look at your competition to better assess your prospects.

Braves and Phils are defintely flawed, as are Mets. But I like the Mets chances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tomg, &#8220;Iâ€™m just worried about the mets. I donâ€™t care about the braves and phillies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Care or not you have to look at your competition to better assess your prospects.</p>
<p>Braves and Phils are defintely flawed, as are Mets. But I like the Mets chances.</p>
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		<title>By: OMAR PADILLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMAR PADILLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are pretty freakin sick for defending cock fighting.  Its legal in New Mexico, but that doesn&#039;t keep it from being disgusting.  What Milz did wasn&#039;t illegal but he sure was bashed for his rap album.  I love the hypocrisy.  If you are on the Mets anything goes but once you leave the Mets you are an evil piece of crap.  I love Pedro but he screwed up and should be a man.  Orignal, you been to a cock fight?  I was, it was freakin bad, sick, gross.  

As far as teams scaring me,  I don&#039;t know and I don&#039;t care what they have.  If we&#039;re good we win, and if we&#039;re not good enough we won&#039;t.  If we have heart we&#039;ll be ok, but I&#039;m not sure we have so much heart and fire on this team.   The new position guys are used to perennial losing.  Can they play when it counts? The left fielder can&#039;t stay healthy.  The 1st baseamn may be done.  The SS collapsed in his first real tight race. Was that him or just a bad time for a slump?  The closer chokes when it counts, another benitez and Heilmann is the same in the clutch.  Maine and Perez and Pedro and El Duque they all got the heart and the fire and so does Wright and Beltran.  Santana we&#039;ll see.  He got the stuff but does he got what it takes on game 162?  Don&#039;t you all wish anyone pitched that last game other than the Brave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are pretty freakin sick for defending cock fighting.  Its legal in New Mexico, but that doesn&#8217;t keep it from being disgusting.  What Milz did wasn&#8217;t illegal but he sure was bashed for his rap album.  I love the hypocrisy.  If you are on the Mets anything goes but once you leave the Mets you are an evil piece of crap.  I love Pedro but he screwed up and should be a man.  Orignal, you been to a cock fight?  I was, it was freakin bad, sick, gross.  </p>
<p>As far as teams scaring me,  I don&#8217;t know and I don&#8217;t care what they have.  If we&#8217;re good we win, and if we&#8217;re not good enough we won&#8217;t.  If we have heart we&#8217;ll be ok, but I&#8217;m not sure we have so much heart and fire on this team.   The new position guys are used to perennial losing.  Can they play when it counts? The left fielder can&#8217;t stay healthy.  The 1st baseamn may be done.  The SS collapsed in his first real tight race. Was that him or just a bad time for a slump?  The closer chokes when it counts, another benitez and Heilmann is the same in the clutch.  Maine and Perez and Pedro and El Duque they all got the heart and the fire and so does Wright and Beltran.  Santana we&#8217;ll see.  He got the stuff but does he got what it takes on game 162?  Don&#8217;t you all wish anyone pitched that last game other than the Brave?</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santana/Pedro/Maine/Ollie/El Duque.

I can very easily see 4 15 game winners from this group. It may not happen but is very do-able.

If there is not a rash of injuries, they play the basics like their manager teaches, play D, play small ball and stay focused this will be a good season.

If they do the above this season will take care of itself and altho we will find out who scares us no one jumps out. We scare them.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santana/Pedro/Maine/Ollie/El Duque.</p>
<p>I can very easily see 4 15 game winners from this group. It may not happen but is very do-able.</p>
<p>If there is not a rash of injuries, they play the basics like their manager teaches, play D, play small ball and stay focused this will be a good season.</p>
<p>If they do the above this season will take care of itself and altho we will find out who scares us no one jumps out. We scare them.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: clm</title>
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		<dc:creator>clm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letsgometsgo - It occurred to me that maybe, just maybe, Pedro&#039;s not sorry. 

As far as JDs post, yes there are still weeknesses on this team, that&#039;s a fact. But the most important part of any team was addressed. There are other factors to address but I believe they will be handled in season to ensure that they are proved to be a weakness.

I am happy to start the season with this team. And I do believe that over all they are the best team in the NL. I don&#039;t believe that this always means a winner, but on paper ...

That being said I&#039;d like to ask JD and the posters this question - Who in the NL really scares you? Who improved so much that you are scared?

The DBs improved starting pitching but that wasn&#039;t their downfall, hitting was. The Rockies look good, The Phils lost key people and don&#039;t scare me. The Braves? Third place again I would bet.

What really scares me? The Mets. They have always been a hard luck team!!! As Sloppy said &quot;It takes luck, chemistry, heart, good subvs to repalce those injured,and a lot more.&quot; I&#039;ll take the luck anyday!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letsgometsgo &#8211; It occurred to me that maybe, just maybe, Pedro&#8217;s not sorry. </p>
<p>As far as JDs post, yes there are still weeknesses on this team, that&#8217;s a fact. But the most important part of any team was addressed. There are other factors to address but I believe they will be handled in season to ensure that they are proved to be a weakness.</p>
<p>I am happy to start the season with this team. And I do believe that over all they are the best team in the NL. I don&#8217;t believe that this always means a winner, but on paper &#8230;</p>
<p>That being said I&#8217;d like to ask JD and the posters this question &#8211; Who in the NL really scares you? Who improved so much that you are scared?</p>
<p>The DBs improved starting pitching but that wasn&#8217;t their downfall, hitting was. The Rockies look good, The Phils lost key people and don&#8217;t scare me. The Braves? Third place again I would bet.</p>
<p>What really scares me? The Mets. They have always been a hard luck team!!! As Sloppy said &#8220;It takes luck, chemistry, heart, good subvs to repalce those injured,and a lot more.&#8221; I&#8217;ll take the luck anyday!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (The Original)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (The Original)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess then in order to be a member of PETA you also need to be a vegetarian. (Now THAT was obnoxious)Anyway PETA, answer my question about the way veal is made.  Letsgo, I don&#039;t think Pedro owes anyone an apology for being part of something that happens in his country and more importantly is legal. This is what Pedro has grown up with all his life. It&#039;s what he knows. It doesn&#039;t mean that it is immoral. I find Ryan Church being an anti-semite much more offensive than what Pedro did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess then in order to be a member of PETA you also need to be a vegetarian. (Now THAT was obnoxious)Anyway PETA, answer my question about the way veal is made.  Letsgo, I don&#8217;t think Pedro owes anyone an apology for being part of something that happens in his country and more importantly is legal. This is what Pedro has grown up with all his life. It&#8217;s what he knows. It doesn&#8217;t mean that it is immoral. I find Ryan Church being an anti-semite much more offensive than what Pedro did.</p>
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		<title>By: PETA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PETA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve the original&#039;s defense of cock fighting is obnoxious and typical of the lack of understanding and decency so prevalent throughout the world.  Mr Martinez was filmed starting a cock fight.  PETA asked him to apologize and to taking a counseling class that we offer.  The fact that he and the New York Mets defended this action by saying it was legal demonstrates there lack of understanding of animal suffering.  While not illegal, like the Michael Vick activity, one would think that an organization like the New York Mets and a public figure such as Mr Martnez would not shrug this off so lightly.
PETA appreciates the coverage that ESPN2 gave the issue this morning.  I&#039;m sure the Mets, like bad politicians will step by step, always too late, change their position as public opinion and bad publicity increases as the baseball season begins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve the original&#8217;s defense of cock fighting is obnoxious and typical of the lack of understanding and decency so prevalent throughout the world.  Mr Martinez was filmed starting a cock fight.  PETA asked him to apologize and to taking a counseling class that we offer.  The fact that he and the New York Mets defended this action by saying it was legal demonstrates there lack of understanding of animal suffering.  While not illegal, like the Michael Vick activity, one would think that an organization like the New York Mets and a public figure such as Mr Martnez would not shrug this off so lightly.<br />
PETA appreciates the coverage that ESPN2 gave the issue this morning.  I&#8217;m sure the Mets, like bad politicians will step by step, always too late, change their position as public opinion and bad publicity increases as the baseball season begins.</p>
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		<title>By: letsgometsgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>letsgometsgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:  I am not a moron like you imply.  I wasn&#039;t commenting on my lifestyle or yours, but fact that a group like PETA has jumped, the fraudulaent Wilpons claim they like peoiple with only the finest moral fiber and its bull,  and I didn&#039;t ask for a reprimand , I said he and they should have apologized.  Why don&#039;t youy read to read before you respond?  

By the way  I don&#039;t hunt, I don&#039;t eat lobster and I don&#039;t eat veal... now so what it doesn&#039;t make Pedro right or wrong does it??  You are either an apologist for anything that your guys do or you are very naive to think this will go away quietly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:  I am not a moron like you imply.  I wasn&#8217;t commenting on my lifestyle or yours, but fact that a group like PETA has jumped, the fraudulaent Wilpons claim they like peoiple with only the finest moral fiber and its bull,  and I didn&#8217;t ask for a reprimand , I said he and they should have apologized.  Why don&#8217;t youy read to read before you respond?  </p>
<p>By the way  I don&#8217;t hunt, I don&#8217;t eat lobster and I don&#8217;t eat veal&#8230; now so what it doesn&#8217;t make Pedro right or wrong does it??  You are either an apologist for anything that your guys do or you are very naive to think this will go away quietly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (The Original)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (The Original)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letsgo: Do you enjoy veal? Do you know what is done to calves to make veal? Animals are constantly slaughtered to give us good tasting steak, or chicken, or lambchops. Do you like to hunt? Do you like to make lobster at home? All of this is perfectly legal in the United States. Just like cock fighting is in the Dominican. You can agree with it or disagree with it, but there is no reason for the Mets to reprimand Pedro for doing something perfectly legal in his country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letsgo: Do you enjoy veal? Do you know what is done to calves to make veal? Animals are constantly slaughtered to give us good tasting steak, or chicken, or lambchops. Do you like to hunt? Do you like to make lobster at home? All of this is perfectly legal in the United States. Just like cock fighting is in the Dominican. You can agree with it or disagree with it, but there is no reason for the Mets to reprimand Pedro for doing something perfectly legal in his country.</p>
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		<title>By: tomg</title>
		<link>http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/02/07/one-more-time-on-johnson-vs-santana/comment-page-1/#comment-32791</link>
		<dc:creator>tomg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
 I agree with you, I&#039;m just worried about the mets. I don&#039;t care about the braves and phillies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p> I agree with you, I&#8217;m just worried about the mets. I don&#8217;t care about the braves and phillies.</p>
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		<title>By: dave crockett</title>
		<link>http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/02/07/one-more-time-on-johnson-vs-santana/comment-page-1/#comment-32790</link>
		<dc:creator>dave crockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the time you get to &quot;Johan Santana doesn&#039;t guarantee a World Series ring just like Randy Johnson didn&#039;t,&quot; you&#039;re not really being some dispassionate voice of reason. You&#039;re just pitting the perfect against the good; not to mention being a curmudgeon.

The Santana deal doesn&#039;t just make the Mets &quot;better&quot; in the abstract. It makes them the odds-on favorite in their division, a point basically conceded by their rivals (with all the standard &quot;let&#039;s see it on the field&quot; caveats). 

So, pointing out that Santana doesn&#039;t bring any guarantees with him is like telling me that people breath. The Mets have flaws? Really? Say it isn&#039;t so. If you want to be insightful tell me a) as of right now, who in the NL East is better and why? b) if you&#039;re implying that the Mets should have done something different, then pray tell, enlighten us rubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the time you get to &#8220;Johan Santana doesn&#8217;t guarantee a World Series ring just like Randy Johnson didn&#8217;t,&#8221; you&#8217;re not really being some dispassionate voice of reason. You&#8217;re just pitting the perfect against the good; not to mention being a curmudgeon.</p>
<p>The Santana deal doesn&#8217;t just make the Mets &#8220;better&#8221; in the abstract. It makes them the odds-on favorite in their division, a point basically conceded by their rivals (with all the standard &#8220;let&#8217;s see it on the field&#8221; caveats). </p>
<p>So, pointing out that Santana doesn&#8217;t bring any guarantees with him is like telling me that people breath. The Mets have flaws? Really? Say it isn&#8217;t so. If you want to be insightful tell me a) as of right now, who in the NL East is better and why? b) if you&#8217;re implying that the Mets should have done something different, then pray tell, enlighten us rubes.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (The Original)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (The Original)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom G: NOTHING is guaranteed! Utley can get hurt again for the Phillies, Lidge can collapse, Ryan Howard can break his leg....Glavine and Smoltz&#039;s arms might fall off because they are old, Escobar might tank at SS..etc...Get my drift? The Mets are good enough to make the playoffs. It&#039;s doubtful that Perez and Maine are going to regress. It&#039;s extremely possible that Pedro won&#039;t hold up for the year and Delgado might indeed be shot...OR, Delgado bounces back to his 2006 production and now that he probably has most if not all of his arm strength back, Pedro will win 15 games. There are uncertanties with every club in the major leagues except maybe the Red Sox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom G: NOTHING is guaranteed! Utley can get hurt again for the Phillies, Lidge can collapse, Ryan Howard can break his leg&#8230;.Glavine and Smoltz&#8217;s arms might fall off because they are old, Escobar might tank at SS..etc&#8230;Get my drift? The Mets are good enough to make the playoffs. It&#8217;s doubtful that Perez and Maine are going to regress. It&#8217;s extremely possible that Pedro won&#8217;t hold up for the year and Delgado might indeed be shot&#8230;OR, Delgado bounces back to his 2006 production and now that he probably has most if not all of his arm strength back, Pedro will win 15 games. There are uncertanties with every club in the major leagues except maybe the Red Sox.</p>
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		<title>By: tomg</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no guarantee that the mets will make the playoffs IMO.
To me, delgado is shot, alou is always hurt. I&#039;m not overly excited with church in right field. Martinez and el duke are old and a DL away. Wagner last year is showing his age at 36. Sanchez hasn&#039;t pitch in over a year and I&#039;m not convinced that he will ever be the same that he was in 2006. Who knows if your going to get the same thing out of Maine and perez from last year. These are allot of uncertainties with tis club. It will definitely be an interesting season to see how this all plays out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no guarantee that the mets will make the playoffs IMO.<br />
To me, delgado is shot, alou is always hurt. I&#8217;m not overly excited with church in right field. Martinez and el duke are old and a DL away. Wagner last year is showing his age at 36. Sanchez hasn&#8217;t pitch in over a year and I&#8217;m not convinced that he will ever be the same that he was in 2006. Who knows if your going to get the same thing out of Maine and perez from last year. These are allot of uncertainties with tis club. It will definitely be an interesting season to see how this all plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: letsgometsgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>letsgometsgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a post about how the Wilpon&#039;s are total frauds when it comes to the behavior of their players.  They did nothing for a kid like Milledge but let him be hanged for a rap song and giving fans high fives during a game, but a vet participates in cock fighting and the Mets issue a statement that tells us its legal in the Dominican.  Then he lies about participating and doesn&#039;t apologize.  I guess its ok because he makes big bucks while a kid doesn&#039;t.  All Pedro needed to do was issue an apology.  But he didn&#039;t now this will hang as PETA prepares picketing and anti-Met PR for the season.  Good job guys.    Think the press doesn&#039;t matter scoopcoop.  Ask Bonilla and Randy Johnson....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a post about how the Wilpon&#8217;s are total frauds when it comes to the behavior of their players.  They did nothing for a kid like Milledge but let him be hanged for a rap song and giving fans high fives during a game, but a vet participates in cock fighting and the Mets issue a statement that tells us its legal in the Dominican.  Then he lies about participating and doesn&#8217;t apologize.  I guess its ok because he makes big bucks while a kid doesn&#8217;t.  All Pedro needed to do was issue an apology.  But he didn&#8217;t now this will hang as PETA prepares picketing and anti-Met PR for the season.  Good job guys.    Think the press doesn&#8217;t matter scoopcoop.  Ask Bonilla and Randy Johnson&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (The Original)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (The Original)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t get your point JD. Nothing is ever guaranteed. Otherwise how else can you explain what the Rockies did at the end of last year or the Met collapse? The Yankees obtained Johnson and ALL HE DID was go 17 &amp; 9 with a 3.79 ERA and ALL THE YANKEES DID was win 95 games and the division. What Santana does for the Mets is give them an excellent CHANCE at making the World Series. So why can&#039;t you just say that nothing is guaranteed and leave it at that? It&#039;s not brain surgery to realize that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t get your point JD. Nothing is ever guaranteed. Otherwise how else can you explain what the Rockies did at the end of last year or the Met collapse? The Yankees obtained Johnson and ALL HE DID was go 17 &#038; 9 with a 3.79 ERA and ALL THE YANKEES DID was win 95 games and the division. What Santana does for the Mets is give them an excellent CHANCE at making the World Series. So why can&#8217;t you just say that nothing is guaranteed and leave it at that? It&#8217;s not brain surgery to realize that.</p>
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		<title>By: sloppy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sloppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scoop:  That&#039;s right we are contenders.  That&#039;s all. We&#039;re not the perfect team. We&#039;re certinly not the &#039;86 or &#039;88 team in depth or talent and one of them won and one of them didn&#039;t.  Too many fans are running around like Yankee fans acting like the season&#039;s over.  First slump there&#039;ll be 50,000 booing people in Shea because the team ain&#039;t 162-0. All Delcos did was point out the team has holes and weaknesses.  And he&#039;s right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scoop:  That&#8217;s right we are contenders.  That&#8217;s all. We&#8217;re not the perfect team. We&#8217;re certinly not the &#8216;86 or &#8216;88 team in depth or talent and one of them won and one of them didn&#8217;t.  Too many fans are running around like Yankee fans acting like the season&#8217;s over.  First slump there&#8217;ll be 50,000 booing people in Shea because the team ain&#8217;t 162-0. All Delcos did was point out the team has holes and weaknesses.  And he&#8217;s right.</p>
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		<title>By: scoopcoop</title>
		<link>http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/02/07/one-more-time-on-johnson-vs-santana/comment-page-1/#comment-32784</link>
		<dc:creator>scoopcoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slop, &quot;It made us CONTENDERS&quot;

All one can hope for is that your team has a chance to make playoffs. When they make the playoffs, anything can happen (ie., Giants).

Mets are now a team that will contend for a playoff spot.

Who cares what the media thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slop, &#8220;It made us CONTENDERS&#8221;</p>
<p>All one can hope for is that your team has a chance to make playoffs. When they make the playoffs, anything can happen (ie., Giants).</p>
<p>Mets are now a team that will contend for a playoff spot.</p>
<p>Who cares what the media thinks.</p>
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