Comments on: Pass on Johan

By: GaryG

GaryG — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:33:39 +0000

And now Omar has played John Delcos as a chump…Can’t win em all buddy…. Cheer up.

By: JCT

JCT — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:53:31 +0000

There is absolutely no way the Wilpons will screw this up—- try to imagine the reaction of the fan base coming off the pain of last season. No way, no how—they know how much this signing might cost and they would never have let Omar go out on such a limb.

I’m pretty shocked, though John—- you seemed pretty sure this would not happen.

By: Azy

Azy — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:47:50 +0000

â€œThe Twins are playing the Mets for chumps.â€

????????

What happened Jon?

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:46:51 +0000

now, moving on to the future. Next year the mets will clear up
about 40 mil in salary and the first basemen for the braves will be a free agent. He wants a no trade clause and atlanta has a policy where they don’t give those clauses so if I was the mets I would give him the no trade clause and sign Teirra
next year to play first base.

By: sloppy

sloppy — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:43:28 +0000

Thank you delcos for making the deal happen. You tricked the Twinkies! OK Omar we like you again but no more trades for Schneiders and Church’s. Only the best or forget it.

By: JoeC

JoeC — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:40:51 +0000

“The Twins are playing the Mets for chumps.”

Ha Ha ha ha!

By: Scott from Pelham

Scott from Pelham — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:40:23 +0000

tom g: absolutely correct on Martinez. Not giving him up makes this a great deal. 72 hours gives the Mets time to get Santana jerseys in the store. ( just joking about the jerseys )

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:37:07 +0000

I’m not being negative, all I’m saying is that the mets have 48-72 hours to sign him si it’s not official until he signs a contract with the mets, that’s all i am saying here. I like that Omar was smart enough not to give up Martinez who bar far is the mets best prospect.

By: sloppy

sloppy — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:36:37 +0000

METSBLOG SAYS THE METS GOT SNTANA….. WE FORGIVE YOU OMAR

By: Scott from Pelham

Scott from Pelham — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:35:30 +0000

I also was wrong I never thought it would really happen.
I guess sometimes if you hang around long enough you get lucky and yes the Mets got lucky.

By: Scott from Pelham

Scott from Pelham — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:32:58 +0000

tomg why so negative
The Mets have the money and will spend on quality.

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:28:50 +0000

Take it easy people, the mets and santana still have to agree on a deal so it’s not official.

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:20:30 +0000

According to Bob Nightengale of USA Today, the deal is done pending a physical and contract agreement by Santana…

By: scoopcoop

scoopcoop — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:53:55 +0000

Looks like Mets could land Santana.

4 for 1 including Gomez and Humber.

I guess they didn’t listen to Delcos.

By: sloppy

sloppy — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:11:55 +0000

The difference between Maine/Perez and the other kids is that Omar traded for them so he had to give them a chance. Perez was a major leaguer who entered Omar’s favorite land, the scrap heap, and I don’t know if Maine was an Oriole reject or what but I know the Pirates couldn’t wait to rid themselves of Oliver. We gave them a good player when we could have given them cash or a couple of used baseballs.

By: scoopcoop

scoopcoop — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:03:57 +0000

Slop, “almost all kids have a struggle time. Th difference is that most team make a commitment and give it time to pan out or fail. Even when the kid is excelling Omar panics and makes a move; what did he want Gotay to do last year hit 700?”

Not saying you are wrong but I can give examples where Mets did allow young guys to play and they proved themselves (Maine, Perez).

I just think at this point that some of the players being touted as something great that come from w/in the org (not from outside of it like Maine/perez) are just not that good.

So, trade them while you can get the best pitcher in BB. Hold onto the best one(s) if you can but don’t make a deal breaker.

I don’t want to hear in the paper or on the radio that FMart kept us from getting Santana.

By: letsgometsgo

letsgometsgo — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:36:12 +0000

The guys on the FAN are sounding like Santana is going to the Mets. I wonder if Delcos’ blog scared the Twins into trying to get something done?

By: tomg

tomg — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:52:04 +0000

From all the reports I’ve been reading, cashman convinced Hal Steinbrenner to keep his young pitching and Boston was in it to keep Santana away from the Yankees and that Boston doesn’t really want to add to there cap so the Mets are the front runners. The twins offered Santana 5 years 100m. as a last ditch effort and santana turned it down. The twins are either going to trade Santana to the mets or hold on to him and maybe
a pitching spot will open up for the yankees or the redsox during the season. I also read that Santana wants to come to the Mets which would make sense because him and castillo are friends. I just don’t want to give up martinez. I’m willing to give up any of the other minor leaguers and gomez but not martinez.

By: sloppy

sloppy — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:34:06 +0000

scoop: almost all kids have a struggle time. Th difference is that most team make a commitment and give it time to pan out or fail. Even when the kid is excelling Omar panics and makes a move; what did he want Gotay to do last year hit 700?
Take dustin Pedroia, In 06 he got a look and hit under .200. omar would have made a trade for a Catillo or something. Red sox stucj wiuth the kid and he hit well over 300. Its not the kids Scoop, its the front office having a plan or having nothing. Omar has nothing. The Yanks wre desperate for bullpen help last year. They moved Chamberlain to the pen, got him used to it and brought him up. What did the Mets do with Humber. Let him rot for a month and thrn threw him to the wolves the last week of the season. That was disgraceful what they did to him. We have to lose our only catching prospect to the rule 5 because this lousy GM gives multi year deals to 48 year olds. Give me a break.

By: scoopcoop

scoopcoop — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:46:23 +0000

slop, “Omar goes with a kid for a little while and at the first struggle he gets a has been. Even the Yanks stuck with Cano and if they keep Hughes theyâ€™ll stick to him just like they did with Waing.”

It might be that Omar has less faith in the kids. But I think it is more b/c these kids just are not that good b/c he doesn’t do his job of player selection/dev.

Yanks, Sox have better young talent b/c they apparantely do a better job of scouting.

Same goes for any team in sports that is on top. Ex. Pats. Even the Giants new GM seems to have done a decent job.

Hence, best to trade these prospects while no one can be sure that they will turn out to only be so-so and then all you get is Church.