Comments on: My Hall of Fame ballot http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/ All about the Mets Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:08:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dan Gurney http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31743 Dan Gurney Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:27:33 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31743 Actually didn't Ernie Banks and Vern Stephens show that shortstop could be an offensive position? Or Honus Wagner? Actually didn’t Ernie Banks and Vern Stephens show that shortstop could be an offensive position? Or Honus Wagner?

]]> By: Tweeter Gammons http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31676 Tweeter Gammons Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:17:08 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31676 How you can choose Alan Trammell over Andre Dawson is beyond me. How you can choose Alan Trammell over Andre Dawson is beyond me.

]]> By: RollingWave http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31631 RollingWave Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:52:27 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31631 The difference is if Mac's HR # were down significantly they'd he'd be very borderline at best. Bonds and Clemens essentially sealed their immortality before they left their first team. Look, Clemens won 3 CY and a MVP for the Red Sox and Bonds won 3 strait MVP for the Pirates (And first year Giant) . those two alone will get you in the hall easily and they were clearly not juied back then. even without the juice Bonds was a top 5 all time hitter. with it he's best all time.. by a very large margin. (comparable OPS+ to the Babe but wins big time in steals and was a great glove until he got old) The difference is if Mac’s HR # were down significantly they’d he’d be very borderline at best. Bonds and Clemens essentially sealed their immortality before they left their first team.

Look, Clemens won 3 CY and a MVP for the Red Sox and Bonds won 3 strait MVP for the Pirates (And first year Giant) . those two alone will get you in the hall easily and they were clearly not juied back then. even without the juice Bonds was a top 5 all time hitter. with it he’s best all time.. by a very large margin. (comparable OPS+ to the Babe but wins big time in steals and was a great glove until he got old)

]]> By: clm http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31623 clm Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:12:00 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31623 JD Good for you on the steroids. Too many will say that they deserve to go in because of prior work. Once your tainted your tainted forever. Keep 'em out. It used to bother me know end that Clemens was getting more Cy Youngs than Seaver and others of that era. Now we all know why. And he can say what he wants about this, and I know innocent until proven guilty, but if I was accused and given a chance to clear my name and was innocent, you can bet your last ruble that I would be sitting in front of Mitchell telling him it aint me, babe. Well enough of my rant. We all have shortcomings in life but many that lost out, on jobs, rings, whatever, did so because these guys cheated. That's where the real crime is. JD

Good for you on the steroids. Too many will say that they deserve to go in because of prior work. Once your tainted your tainted forever. Keep ‘em out. It used to bother me know end that Clemens was getting more Cy Youngs than Seaver and others of that era. Now we all know why. And he can say what he wants about this, and I know innocent until proven guilty, but if I was accused and given a chance to clear my name and was innocent, you can bet your last ruble that I would be sitting in front of Mitchell telling him it aint me, babe.

Well enough of my rant. We all have shortcomings in life but many that lost out, on jobs, rings, whatever, did so because these guys cheated. That’s where the real crime is.

]]> By: Scott from Pelham http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31622 Scott from Pelham Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:27:12 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31622 Dave Crockett Marchman's column is great. He is a great read and has a very unique perspective about baseball. I try to read his column everyday. Dave Crockett

Marchman’s column is great.

He is a great read and has a very unique perspective
about baseball. I try to read his column everyday.

]]> By: John Delcos http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31620 John Delcos Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:36:56 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31620 Will not vote for Clemens or Bonds. I have to be consistent about my stance.-JD Will not vote for Clemens or Bonds. I have to be consistent about my stance.-JD

]]> By: dave crockett http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31616 dave crockett Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:58:10 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31616 McGwire wasn't any more productive than a number of his contemporaries, steroids or not. I wasn't sold on his candidacy prior to the steroids controversy. I think Tim Marchman's column makes the point quite well. http://www.nysun.com/article/46011 McGwire wasn’t any more productive than a number of his contemporaries, steroids or not. I wasn’t sold on his candidacy prior to the steroids controversy. I think Tim Marchman’s column makes the point quite well.

http://www.nysun.com/article/46011

]]> By: OMAR PADILLA http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31614 OMAR PADILLA Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:07:21 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31614 Retire a number??? Numbers won't be retired until the new park is empty, and the Wilpons are desperate for a large crowd, so not until 2011 or so, then you'll see Keith, Carter, Koos etc unless Omar regains his guts and keeps the team competitive, then you'll have to wait for new ownership. Retire a number??? Numbers won’t be retired until the new park is empty, and the Wilpons are desperate for a large crowd, so not until 2011 or so, then you’ll see Keith, Carter, Koos etc unless Omar regains his guts and keeps the team competitive, then you’ll have to wait for new ownership.

]]> By: Billy http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31611 Billy Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:53:47 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31611 I know he is no longer on the ballot, but Jerry Kooseman deserves some consideration...... The Mets should at least retire his number...... I know he is no longer on the ballot, but Jerry Kooseman deserves some consideration…...

The Mets should at least retire his number…...

]]> By: Benny Ayala http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31610 Benny Ayala Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:47:08 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31610 Where's Brady Anderson? Where’s Brady Anderson?

]]> By: OMAR PADILLA http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31602 OMAR PADILLA Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:00:37 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31602 Forgotten in Detroit??? You mean like Al Kaline??? If you are good enough you ain't forgotten. Except for the ESPN stupid heads who only know The Bronx and Fenway. Forgotten in Detroit??? You mean like Al Kaline???

If you are good enough you ain’t forgotten. Except for the ESPN stupid heads who only know The Bronx and Fenway.

]]> By: Scott from Pelham http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31601 Scott from Pelham Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:52:33 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31601 Happy to see Trammell on the list. A great Shortstop who too many have already forgotten because he played his whole career in Detroit. Happy to see Trammell on the list. A great Shortstop who too many have already forgotten because he played his whole career
in Detroit.

]]> By: Annie Savoy http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31600 Annie Savoy Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:20:08 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31600 John - You read my mind. I agree with them all. John – You read my mind. I agree with them all.

]]> By: scoopcoop http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31599 scoopcoop Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:19:02 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31599 JD, glad to see you didn't vote for steroids. Will you vote for Clemens or Bonds? For Santana nuts like me........In a post to Seth Speaks, a Twins blog, Seth Stohs writes..“If the Mets would offer Carlos Gomez, Mike Pelfrey OR Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and one other prospect, I think that the Twins would have to consider it. If that prospect was Deolis Guerra, they would be silly to say no.” I'll say it again....MUTS won't pull trigger b/c of the $ not the players ot be given up... JD, glad to see you didn’t vote for steroids. Will you vote for Clemens or Bonds?

For Santana nuts like me….....In a post to Seth Speaks, a Twins blog, Seth Stohs writes..“If the Mets would offer Carlos Gomez, Mike Pelfrey OR Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and one other prospect, I think that the Twins would have to consider it. If that prospect was Deolis Guerra, they would be silly to say no.”

I’ll say it again….MUTS won’t pull trigger b/c of the $ not the players ot be given up…

]]> By: dave http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-31598 dave Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:05:25 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/02/my-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-31598 What about Dawson? What about Dawson?

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