Comments on: You’re not going to like this … http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/ All about the Mets Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:08:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: tomg http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30475 tomg Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:32:23 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30475 The difference is other organizations know the Yankees draft and develop players well so that's why the national made that deal. It's know secret that the mets farm system for years has been over hyped. it's well known around baseball. The difference is other organizations know the Yankees draft and develop players well so that’s why the national made that deal. It’s know secret that the mets farm system for years has been over hyped. it’s well known around baseball.

]]> By: scoopcoop http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30474 scoopcoop Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:25:42 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30474 steve, the guy looks like he must have been somewhere in pro-ball and fell out of favor...and bounced back to make it to the bigs at 25 Albaladejo, signed as a free agent by the Nationals in May before becoming one of the Harrisburg Senators' better relievers (4-3, 4.17 ERA, 2 saves) over the summer, earned a September call-up to Washington. The 25-year-old Puerto Rican impressed in his first MLB action, going 1-1 with a 1.18 ERA in 14 appearances. Clippard, 22, went 3-1 with a 6.33 ERA in six starts with the Yankees last year but spent most of his time between Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and Class AA Trenton. While with the Thunder in 2006, Clippard threw a no-hitter against the Senators on City Island. Congratulations to Albaladejo, who seven months ago wasn't considered good enough to make the Altoona Curve's active roster. Now he's being traded, pending physicals, straight-up for the Yankees' No. 7 prospect (2007 Baseball America)? That's a nice jump for the big man... steve,

the guy looks like he must have been somewhere in pro-ball and fell out of favor…and bounced back to make it to the bigs at 25

Albaladejo, signed as a free agent by the Nationals in May before becoming one of the Harrisburg Senators’ better relievers (4-3, 4.17 ERA, 2 saves) over the summer, earned a September call-up to Washington. The 25-year-old Puerto Rican impressed in his first MLB action, going 1-1 with a 1.18 ERA in 14 appearances.

Clippard, 22, went 3-1 with a 6.33 ERA in six starts with the Yankees last year but spent most of his time between Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and Class AA Trenton. While with the Thunder in 2006, Clippard threw a no-hitter against the Senators on City Island.

Congratulations to Albaladejo, who seven months ago wasn’t considered good enough to make the Altoona Curve’s active roster. Now he’s being traded, pending physicals, straight-up for the Yankees’ No. 7 prospect (2007 Baseball America)? That’s a nice jump for the big man…

]]> By: scoopcoop http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30473 scoopcoop Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:23:09 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30473 Steve, don't know much about this Jonathan Albaladejo guy. But he certainly did well in his call up, albeit only about 10 inn. You have to believe the Nats asked Omar if he would be willing to give them a Tyler Clippard type for this guy and he passed. Steve,

don’t know much about this Jonathan Albaladejo guy. But he certainly did well in his call up, albeit only about 10 inn.

You have to believe the Nats asked Omar if he would be willing to give them a Tyler Clippard type for this guy and he passed.

]]> By: scoopcoop http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30472 scoopcoop Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:18:59 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30472 Steve, that is alot of hopes, if, buts and maybes for a BP that was overwelmed by the lack of inn by the SP staff. If that is the strategy, if the chase for a SP fails, it is not a sound one. Steve,

that is alot of hopes, if, buts and maybes for a BP that was overwelmed by the lack of inn by the SP staff.

If that is the strategy, if the chase for a SP fails, it is not a sound one.

]]> By: Ed in Westchester http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30470 Ed in Westchester Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:04:02 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30470 You cannot trade Reyes. You lose your leadoff hitter and shortstop (Miguel Tejada is DONE). It's nice to have a solid rotation, but what happens when you can't score enough runs? You cannot trade Reyes. You lose your leadoff hitter and shortstop (Miguel Tejada is DONE).

It’s nice to have a solid rotation, but what happens when you can’t score enough runs?

]]> By: steve http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30468 steve Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:22:49 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30468 Scoop: Omar is going to count on a return to health by Sanchez and Padilla, count on Schoenweis pitching as well as he did towards the end of the year, hope that Joe Smith got the experience he needs, and if he doesn't include him in a trade, have Heilman set up for Wagner. And i'm sure they are going to have a spot for Jorge Sosa as well in the pen. I posted above a question as why the Mets couldn't get a guy like Jonathan Albaladejo, who showed great promise in his call up last year. Who even knows if Omar was even in on him. Scoop: Omar is going to count on a return to health by Sanchez and Padilla, count on Schoenweis pitching as well as he did towards the end of the year, hope that Joe Smith got the experience he needs, and if he doesn’t include him in a trade, have Heilman set up for Wagner. And i’m sure they are going to have a spot for Jorge Sosa as well in the pen. I posted above a question as why the Mets couldn’t get a guy like Jonathan Albaladejo, who showed great promise in his call up last year. Who even knows if Omar was even in on him.

]]> By: scoopcoop http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30465 scoopcoop Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:03:07 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30465 Speaking of BP why have we not heard one story (except some overtures to Dotel and Chacon) about improving the BP? With the lack of inn from the SP, the BP suffered and the historic meltdown happened. If Omar can't get a SP, where is the strategy for the BP? Speaking of BP

why have we not heard one story (except some overtures to Dotel and Chacon) about improving the BP?

With the lack of inn from the SP, the BP suffered and the historic meltdown happened.

If Omar can’t get a SP, where is the strategy for the BP?

]]> By: tomg http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30463 tomg Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:45:29 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30463 Faith Will Be Rewarded, the problem with that idea is that nobody knows how effective or good sanchez is going to be. Sanchez hasn't pitch in over a year and is coming off a serious shoulder injury to his throwing arm. I don't see how you can depend on sanchez right now. Faith Will Be Rewarded,

the problem with that idea is that nobody knows how effective or good sanchez is going to be. Sanchez hasn’t pitch in over a year and is coming off a serious shoulder injury to his throwing arm. I don’t see how you can depend on sanchez right now.

]]> By: Faith Will Be Rewarded http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30462 Faith Will Be Rewarded Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:23:02 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30462 What is Minaya supposed to do? Right now he doesn't have the chips to land a big pitcher. He could trade Reyes for Santana but that makes no sense at all and would be bad business. His best move right now is to stand pat or try and load up on relievers. It sounds like Sanchez will be coming back and that will be a big boost. The thing I don't understand is not putting Heilman back in the starting rotation. It would solve a big problem and can be offset rather easily especially with the aforementioned return of Duaner Sanchez. What is Minaya supposed to do? Right now he doesn’t have the chips to land a big pitcher. He could trade Reyes for Santana but that makes no sense at all and would be bad business. His best move right now is to stand pat or try and load up on relievers. It sounds like Sanchez will be coming back and that will be a big boost. The thing I don’t understand is not putting Heilman back in the starting rotation. It would solve a big problem and can be offset rather easily especially with the aforementioned return of Duaner Sanchez.

]]> By: Stillsane http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30461 Stillsane Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:04:16 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30461 I think that the only Santana that the Mets could acquire at this point is Raphael Santana. Minaya is covering all bases by waffling. He can't be wrong because not matter what he does at these Winter Meetings, he covered it one or more of the ambiguous statements that he has made to the press. The honest thing to say would be; "I'm offerring, no one is biting, and, I am not going to give the store away just to make a trade." Looks like we may have to watch the waiver wire this winter for new blood, since they do not look like they will get it done now and they seem to love to bring in castaways. The only thing that would be even more disappointing right now would be if they trade the "unhappy, I want to be a starter" Heilman and get nothing in return. Omar, we have enough catchers right now, thanks. I think that the only Santana that the Mets could acquire at this point is Raphael Santana. Minaya is covering all bases by waffling. He can’t be wrong because not matter what he does at these Winter Meetings, he covered it one or more of the ambiguous statements that he has made to the press. The honest thing to say would be; “I’m offerring, no one is biting, and, I am not going to give the store away just to make a trade.” Looks like we may have to watch the waiver wire this winter for new blood, since they do not look like they will get it done now and they seem to love to bring in castaways. The only thing that would be even more disappointing right now would be if they trade the “unhappy, I want to be a starter” Heilman and get nothing in return. Omar, we have enough catchers right now, thanks.

]]> By: adl http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30460 adl Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:27:15 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30460 Minaya may be right about the team he's got now being better than the one he had at the end of Spring Training last year but carefully weighing the rosters makes it seem more hype than fact; there's plenty of time between no and April for injuries. Bracing you for nothing to happen should come as no surprise. The paltry return for Milledge should have made it clear that the Mets just don't have the chips to make a big trade. Everything Minaya has done throughout his tenure has pointed to this offseason as being the difficult one -- the top of the farm system is pretty depleted and the bottom is too far away to make anything happen. Things would have been different if Victor Diaz and Alay Soler (to name a couple) were "real" players. It might actually work to the Mets advantage to have too few chips to trade for the pitcher they need -- maybe one or two of the young guys will get a chance (before being traded away) and actually produce. We'll still likely to see a second-rate (at best) pitcher (Livan Hernandez or Silva, maybe) get overpaid by Minaya in a contract with too many years on it. Minaya may be right about the team he’s got now being better than the one he had at the end of Spring Training last year but carefully weighing the rosters makes it seem more hype than fact; there’s plenty of time between no and April for injuries.

Bracing you for nothing to happen should come as no surprise. The paltry return for Milledge should have made it clear that the Mets just don’t have the chips to make a big trade. Everything Minaya has done throughout his tenure has pointed to this offseason as being the difficult one—the top of the farm system is pretty depleted and the bottom is too far away to make anything happen. Things would have been different if Victor Diaz and Alay Soler (to name a couple) were “real” players.

It might actually work to the Mets advantage to have too few chips to trade for the pitcher they need—maybe one or two of the young guys will get a chance (before being traded away) and actually produce.

We’ll still likely to see a second-rate (at best) pitcher (Livan Hernandez or Silva, maybe) get overpaid by Minaya in a contract with too many years on it.

]]> By: Laurie http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30459 Laurie Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:53:26 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30459 Dave: our farm system sucks. Wagner was a free agent (no kids traded). Beltran was a free agent (no kids traded). We traded kids in the LoDuca and Delgado trades -- so far, none of them has exactly lit the world on fire (except Mike Jacobs, they're all still languishing in the minors). Last year, we gave up a lot of kids for very questionable value - Bannister for Burgos (although Omar gets an incomplete on that one; Burgos could still turn out to be a fine reliever/closer type); Bell and Ring for Ben Johnson and John Adkins (Bell had a rebound season in SD, but he was awful for the Mets, and those who claim he never got a chance in NY have rewritten history; Ring otoh still sucked and both were out of options when traded), Johnson broke his leg, but showed no signs of development, and Adkins has already moved on; Lindstrom and Owens for Vargas and Bostick (Lindstrom was decent; Owens got hurt, as expected), trading almost-30 year old prospects for kids, but those kids did not develop. Almost everything else Omar has drafted is mediocre or has serious question marks. So if Omar should be fired for anything, it's the fact that the farm system sucks rotten eggs and he hasn't developed it at all, except to make the occasional big splash with 16 year olds who are big question marks and take an eternity to develop (we're still waiting for the first two -- Guerra and F-Mart, and they're still not exactly *can't miss* prospects like Hughes or Ellersby). Dave: our farm system sucks. Wagner was a free agent (no kids traded). Beltran was a free agent (no kids traded). We traded kids in the LoDuca and Delgado trades—so far, none of them has exactly lit the world on fire (except Mike Jacobs, they’re all still languishing in the minors). Last year, we gave up a lot of kids for very questionable value – Bannister for Burgos (although Omar gets an incomplete on that one; Burgos could still turn out to be a fine reliever/closer type); Bell and Ring for Ben Johnson and John Adkins (Bell had a rebound season in SD, but he was awful for the Mets, and those who claim he never got a chance in NY have rewritten history; Ring otoh still sucked and both were out of options when traded), Johnson broke his leg, but showed no signs of development, and Adkins has already moved on; Lindstrom and Owens for Vargas and Bostick (Lindstrom was decent; Owens got hurt, as expected), trading almost-30 year old prospects for kids, but those kids did not develop. Almost everything else Omar has drafted is mediocre or has serious question marks. So if Omar should be fired for anything, it’s the fact that the farm system sucks rotten eggs and he hasn’t developed it at all, except to make the occasional big splash with 16 year olds who are big question marks and take an eternity to develop (we’re still waiting for the first two—Guerra and F-Mart, and they’re still not exactly can’t miss prospects like Hughes or Ellersby).

]]> By: Grapeweasel http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30458 Grapeweasel Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:35:48 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30458 Omar isn't willing to be robbed blind. Fire him. Omar isn’t willing to be robbed blind.

Fire him.

]]> By: Jeff http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30457 Jeff Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:34:16 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30457 Thought the Mets should have fired Minaya after last season....he's not doing very well since his early 'lucky' start. The 2008 season is shaping up to be a very frustrating one....3rd place? YUCK! Thought the Mets should have fired Minaya after last season….he’s not doing very well since his early ‘lucky’ start.
The 2008 season is shaping up to be a very frustrating one….3rd place? YUCK!

]]> By: Billy http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30456 Billy Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:29:46 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30456 Beddard and Tejada to the Mets..... Trade Reyes in a revamped Santanna deal..... Santanna - Beddard - Maine - Perez - Martinez..... Not bad. it could happen. Beddard and Tejada to the Mets…..
Trade Reyes in a revamped Santanna deal…..

Santanna – Beddard – Maine – Perez – Martinez…..

Not bad.

it could happen.

]]> By: dave http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30455 dave Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:46:06 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30455 I guess once again we will not get the pitching we need. I think Benny is right. We will pick up someone else's trash and hope to find gold. This team right now is not better than last springs version. For the first month or so we were rockin. We will get some starter who is better than Chan Ho and probably some RF or other. I saw something which said Haren's first season was similar to what Pelf did last year. I thought he was better the last 4 starts. Not good, but he didn't get rocked. So next spring we will limp into the season with a patched up team and hope it is good enough. Oh well. To those who have been complaining about our farm. Someone posted a response here on one of the other threads. Our good farm system went to Wagner, Delgado, Beltran, et al. Without them we would be the Devil Rays. I guess once again we will not get the pitching we need.

I think Benny is right. We will pick up someone else’s trash and hope to find gold.

This team right now is not better than last springs version.

For the first month or so we were rockin.

We will get some starter who is better than Chan Ho and probably some RF or other.

I saw something which said Haren’s first season was similar to what Pelf did last year. I thought he was better the last 4 starts. Not good, but he didn’t get rocked.

So next spring we will limp into the season with a patched up team and hope it is good enough.

Oh well.

To those who have been complaining about our farm. Someone posted a response here on one of the other threads.

Our good farm system went to Wagner, Delgado, Beltran, et al. Without them we would be the Devil Rays.

]]> By: itsmetsforme http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30454 itsmetsforme Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:23:54 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30454 That's hilarious, Mr Minaya. Tell me another one. That’s hilarious, Mr Minaya. Tell me another one.

]]> By: Bravefan http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30453 Bravefan Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:41:22 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30453 In regard to the title of the post, We like it in Atlanta and I'm sure they like it in Philly. Emjoy your return to mediocrity Metfans. If the Phils folow your example we'll win 14 in a row again. In regard to the title of the post, We like it in Atlanta and I’m sure they like it in Philly.

Emjoy your return to mediocrity Metfans.

If the Phils folow your example we’ll win 14 in a row again.

]]> By: Dave in Spain http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30452 Dave in Spain Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:15:35 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30452 AB- I use that to get to the blog (without www) and I still have frequent problems. All weekend there was some comment about an invalid Kubrick header and something about the yankees. seriously. This site is down a lot. AB- I use that to get to the blog (without www) and I still have frequent problems. All weekend there was some comment about an invalid Kubrick header and something about the yankees. seriously. This site is down a lot.

]]> By: AB http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/comment-page-1/#comment-30451 AB Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:44:21 +0000 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/03/youre-not-going-to-like-this/#comment-30451 If you're having problems getting to the blog, just get rid of the www. http://mets.lohudblogs.com works just fine. If you’re having problems getting to the blog, just get rid of the www. http://mets.lohudblogs.com works just fine.

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