Let’s not get excited about Haren, Blanton, etc.
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Quick question for you: What’s the attraction with Dan Haren, Joe Blanton and Erik Bedard?
Hmmm … oh yeah.
They are good. They are young. They aren’t expensive. They aren’t going to be free agents.
Everybody wants pitchers like that. Including the teams that have them. So, unless they are overwhelmed, what’s the point in trading them?
I can see those teams standing pat and holding up teams like the Mets in their pitcher’s walk years.
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I don’t know. Is there “anyone” out there that actually thought it was realistic? Certainly not me.
To Steve (RE: realistic): That all depends on your perspective. Haren more so than Santana, but to me, not so on either.-JD
Just hope Omar’s interest to make a splash does not equate to selling the farm for some ok pieces like Schiender’s and Church’s…......oops that already happened!
JD: Unless the Mets are going to purge their system of top prospects, Gomez/F-Mart/Mulvey/Pelfrey in one deal, it’s not realistic to think the Mets can acquire a guy like Haren or Bedard, and I wouldn’t pay that much for Blanton. I guess the only way I would have a different perspective is if I knew that the Yanks, RS, D-Backs, Dodgers, or Angels didn’t have interest in Haren or Bedard. In that case, maybe the Mets could get away with offering less.
Prediction: The Mets will tease like that girl in high school did in the parking lot behind Acme.
Whomever does not get Santana (if it is Yanks or Sox) will go after one of the other guys b/c they will not want to fall behind the other team.
Yanks get Posada, Mo, Arod, Pettite, Santana, maybe Rowand or A Jones
Mets get Eric (ponch) Estrada, Scheinder and Church
That saya it all
Benny, you said it
so many stories about getting something and walking away w/the consolation prize (Eric Estrada)
To Benny (RE: tease): You knew her, too?-JD
She speaks fondly of you, Delcos…
Yes, Benny and John – we all loved high school :)
OT – John, is there any word on who could or should replace Tom McCarthy in the Mets Radio Booth?
They may get Blanton, but that’s all. It will also require a passel of quality prospects.
The Mets traded a dominant ace to Tampa. They’ll now spend the next five years trying to get another. Just be patient.
I’ll put this here too. It seems to fit.
How about getting creative? if the pitching market is this crazy, Omar should dangle maine and/or Perez to see if he can cash in on a boat load of prospects.
maine is just about as good as Haren already, and certainly a better player (and contract) than Blanton.
Why not reload the barren farm system that way? One player back would have to be a young SP prospect (another teams Pelfrey/Humber) that could go into the rotation.
With the rest of the talent, and a small bit of luck, they can still make the playoffs this year, and really set up for a dynasty.
Not gonna happen of course.
Oh, the best thing about my plan? Imagine how it upends the market, and freaks out the other GMs, if Omar suddenly becomes a seller of SP? If nothting else, it would change the negotiating dynamics for his attempts to buy!
Gotta make leverage where you can.
Funny how this Met stuff works. First A-Rod is supposedly on the market and he’s not a good fit so they say for the Mets. We’re gonna get an ace, so they say.
Then Snatana hits the market and he’s not a good fit so they say, Haren and Bedard are much better deals for the Mets, so they say.
Now we are told Haren and Bedard are not good fits. Ah the Mets. We have accepted being a second team in the first city. How sad we are. But I am a Met fan so I am supposed to believe the Omar propogana about Church and Schneider, an outfiedler who Omar says can play them all (he said that about Nady as well), but his average is below the league outfieder average and was sent to the mnors as recently as 2006 when he was 28!!! And Schneider, whose average is dwindling faster than catchers 5 years his elder. The great defensive catcher who ranked 11th. Wow…Grote he’s not… Yes, I am supposed to be excited. So I guess I will pretend I am. And when we sign that big ace Livan or something equal, HIPHIPHOORAY, as we laugh at the Yanks for spending too much for Haren or Santana, or the BoSox for doing the same.
Its time for Omar to go!
Sloppy: sorry if this is old news, but I heard the Pirates are going to nontender Xavier Nady.
To Stick (RE: Becoming the sellers): Interesting concept, but it won’t happen. The Mets won 88 games last season and blame not getting to the playoffs on two bad weeks. Assuming they are right, they should have won 95 games last year while drawing over 3 million. Given that, they should, even with very little additions this winter, be competitive with what they have. No way in NYC will they skate on rebuilding.-JD
to delcos:
I actually agree with you, and feel that the team is already very good, although another SP would help.
I wasn’t, however, advocating rebuilding. Just taking advantage of an overheated market to potentially make the team better overall, certainly for future years.
Although the real benefit would be to upset the trade market (and other GMs) and put Omar on the offensive, which would be much better than where he is now.
Scott: What the Pirates do with Nady is irrelevant to my points about Omar’s inablility to trade for a big piece. And Nady is a better player than Church so Omar should have oicked him up for free if you are right.
\JD: The Mets are delusional if they blame the last 2 weeks on the season. What about the stretch in June, what about the last 110 games or so? They became a .500 club and they have done nothing to alter that. Anf f you are right about Glavine they are actually worse because they lost 13 wins and 200 innings.
I myself do not know why the A’s or O’s would trade these guys years before they become FAs. The O’s have dough, they just have an owner who is about as bad as the Wilpons, maybe worse. The A’s I don’t know their problem.
I do think on a seperate note that I think the Wilpons think that Citi Field is an eternal pot of gold. They shouldn’t talk with the O’s. They should look at the O’s and see that without a good club the pot of gold goes away in a few years. The only time Camden Yards is filled anyomore is when the Amtrak train stops with all the Yankee or Red Sox fans to fill it up.