Glavine gone; Castillo coming back
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- November
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Tom Glavine did what Met fans expected he’d do all summer, and what many hoped he’d do after his meltdown in the season finale: He accepted a deal with the Atlanta Braves.
Coming on the heels of losing free agent catcher Yorvit Torrealba the previous day came the news tonight Glavine accepted a reported $8 million offer to return to the Braves _ which is $5 million less than what he could have had from the Mets.
Taking away some of the sting was the news second baseman Luis Castillo agreed to a four-year, $25-million contract to return to the Mets pending a physical.
Glavine, 41, became a free agent after declining a $13-million option. However, getting a $3 million buyout from the Mets, coupled with the $8 million from the Braves, slices into the difference.
Glavine went 13-8 for the Mets last season but his final game went one-third of an inning in the season’s last game against Florida. At the time Glavine said that game “wouldn’t determine’’ his decision, but being with his family would be the overriding factor.
This is expected.
With Glavine gone and Torrealba out of the picture, adding a starter, catcher and relief help are the Mets’ priorities heading into the Winter Meetings the first week of December in Nashville, Tenn.
Minaya said the team would explore both free agent and trade options this winter for a pitcher. Minnesota’s Carlos Silva is considered one of the top free agent options, and the Mets are expected to inquire into the availability of Oakland pitcher Dan Haren.
To acquire Haren, the Mets could have to surrender one or two prospects. Minaya said this because the free-agent pitching market is thin, he might be forced to surrender a top prospect such as Mike Pelfrey and or Lastings Milledge to pry away a top pitcher from another team.
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GOOD RIDDANCE!! THANKS FOR THE DRAFT PICKS ATLANTA!!!
Cox: Ya did good kid, especially the last 3 games. OK, sign here.
Glavine: Gee thanks boss. Once a Brave, always a Brave I guess.
Cox: It’s like you were never gone. By the way, how did you keep a straight face that whole time.
Glavine: Evidently you missed my post game interview after game #162. I just couldn’t hold my contempt in for that friggin’ club any longer.
Cox: No I must’ve missed that one.
Glavine: That’s okay, I made copies. Ya want one?
...oh, and ditto what ‘henry’ said, too.
John D,
I wanted to confirm that the Mets did get that draft pick. Do you know for sure?
As far as Castillo, just hope he is healthy b/c if he is not we are stuck w/him for a while. And if he does not perform he is know to be a sulker.
I’d guess Gotay will be sent packing. Too bad, I would have liked to see what he could do if he got to play everyday despite his awkwardness at 2b sometimes.
And Please no Silva. He will command 4-5 yrs @11-12MM. If we get him I’m afraid that it might prevent us from signing OP to a long term deal when Boras takes him FA after the 08 season.
JD: To ease the sting? You gotta be kidding. If losing a 40 something guy with a me only attitude is a sting then we need more stings. Anyobdy who doesn’t care he personally guarantees not being in the playoffs is a loser no matter how many wins in his career.
If Met fans are worried about geting a draft pick then we are acting like Pirate fans. That’s the sell job given to perennial loser clubs. If the team had good scouts we’d find prospects in any place in the draft. Like the Bronx team seems to do.
Don’t give up on Gotay. Scoop. Things work out. He could become a super sub all over the field and get plenty of ABs especially with this aged team we are re putting together!
Is Mike Pelfrey still a top prospect?
Yes, Pelfrey is still a top prospect.
this is good news/bad news. Kind of like your evil wife leaves you, but she runs over your favorite dog on the way out.
I am happy to see Glavine go for draft picks, but not happy to see Castillo back (especially for a lot of years).
Does anyone think he will even be close to ML level in 2-3 years (at 35) with the knee and hip issues?
He also has no value if he isn’t starting, so it’s not like they can make him a super sub.
slop, if we lose Glavine I just wanted to be sure that the FO did their job and got the draft pick. In the Bergen Record it says we did get the pick.
I would give up one or two of our young guys for Haren. That is exactly what we need. If we package Lastings we will be in the FA mkt for an OF ( which we need anyway since we are thin ).
As long as the braves don’t sign cordero or rowand, we get the 18th pick. At this point, we’d also get the 34th pick as a supplemental. If lowell re-ups with the sox, that becomes 33. Cordero or rowand re-upping would also move that pick up one slot. Nobody else who is on the market ranked higher in the elias rankings, and wouldn’t affect draft position. As long as the mets stay away from barrett linebrink, cordero, or rowand, we keep the #22 pick in the draft. Green or Loduca signing prior to 12/1 would also net us a pick between rounds 1 and 2.
YEA!!!!!!!!! Did you guys see my happy dances this weekend by any chance? No Terribleabla, now Glavine finally leaves. I finally have joy as a Met fan!!! (By the way, love the Castillo deal if it goes thru even though it’s for 4 years) If Kaz Matsui has $5 mil per year offers on the table and if Eckstein wants the same contract as Julio Lugo got, well the Castillo deal is a no-brainer (in a positive sense of course!)
I hope we can get Haren for Pelfrey, but i doubt it. It would probably require someone else, but I guess I could live with one of the outfielders going.
I can’t believe how rich these just better than average ballplayers are getting, not that it’s my money, since I only go to a couple games per year, but it will eventually hit us. Why does Eckstein think he will get $9 million per season? Castillo’s contract is ok, but I hope they got insurance. I doubt they did, though, since it was completed so quickly. Hopefully that Citi $20 million per year will help to not make ticket prices rise more.
At this point, I want some different players signed just for the sake of getting some fresh blood on this team, to help push the players that were “bored” during most of last season. I was one who wanted Glavine back, but now of course I hope he does horribly and that Humber, who I want to replace him, will be the next coming of Glavine (in his better days of course). I think Tom got a raw deal here, with more criticism for his bad games then praise for his good games. Last season may have been his best one with us. If he ever had the run support that Trachs did in 2006, he would have been at least a 20-game winner, and with bullpen support, even more, in at least one of his five seasons.
Dave: In order to get Haren start with Pelfrey and Milledge…and that’s just a start. I would bet you’d have to add Mulvey, Humber, or Deolis to complete the deal. Haren is a bonafide ace. Getting a guy like Haren would allow the Mets to hopefully wait until Johan costs only money and a draft pick in 2009 instead of players that I don’t think the Mets have that would really interest the Twins compared to what other teams can offer.
Scoop: The FO didn’t do anything to get the draft pick. If a guy signs with a new team before the date he has to be offered arbitration the old team automatically gets the pick due them. So Omar couldn’t screw this up. I’m just surprised the Braves didn’t wait 2 weeks to give Omar the chance to screw up.
I can just about guarantee everybody that if Santana hits the free agrent market he won’t be a Met. The yanks will outbid Omar to have a young vet teamed with all their young pitchers. We want him we better trade for him, but I think he’ll sign with the Twins. They made him a first offer and they have a park coming which will significantly modify their revenues.
Ski Bolton: You sound just like my Pirate fan friends do. Draft picks in baseball? Be real.
Santana-we don’t have enough to get Santana. I don’t think the Mets would sign him if he is a FA either. We have our one long term contract guy (Beltran) who was signed to show the fans that they had a reason to show up again. I don’t even think the Mets will sign OP who is the poor mans Santana b/c Boras will take him FA and if he performs in 08, he will get a 5-7 yr deal.
Haren-it would be nice to get him for Pelfrey and Milledge but I anticipate it will be more. Plus, who plays RF. I doubt we would sign Rowand b/c he wants 5 yrs. But if you want a gritty guy, he would do. Rowand would also allow Gomez more time to develop in AAA and perhaps come up now and then as you would expect Alou to miss 80 games +.
Silva-yuck
L Hernandez-I could live w/only b/c he might be just 2 yrs.
Blanton-he probably commands at least Pelfrey and Milledge too.
Willis-is he done? Too big/thick in the middle to flex into that quirky motion? Maybe you get him cheaper than Blanton and Haren.
Matt Garza, Lincecum are names that have floated out there that are young and have talent….wait a second young and talented…..Mets don’t want those types…give me old and use to be…..
Can’t think of any other FA who is even worth typing about.
If it costs more than Pelf and Milledge I would think about it. Prices are higher every year and we are not getting younger and better.
If we have Haren/Pedro/Maine/Ollie as the first 4 for next year that would be nice. Picking up an OF is easier than a pitcher.
This would mean El Duque at #5 with possibly Humber coming in at the all star break.
John Delcosa is a Glavine crony. So he pretends that Glavine’s five years was wonderful.Glavine had a highly medicore 07 it wasn’t just his last start. Castillo has declined with the bat and has lost range since 03 and has bad knees yet Omar gives him a 4 year deal. I rather see the Mets trade Gomez(who can’t hit a lick) rather than Milledge.
Sloppy, the last 6 mets top 40 draft picks…Pelfrey, Humber, Milledge, Kazmir, Heilman, Wright. Even 3 guys in the humber/pelfrey category is 3 more chips. The pirates fan would need them to all develop into studs, while the mets fan needs more chips to get guys like santana or haren. Even if these guys never make it, they will probably all be viewed as quality prospects and decent chips.
Once again defending Glavine
On Mets.com on an article discussing Glavine, Castillo, the lost catcher
‘Glavine the most consistant Met pitcher the last 2 years’
Love him or hate him you need to give him his due. He was a find pitcher for us who took the mound every 5th day and produced mostly quality starts. He is no longer a top of the rotation guy but although the Met faithful may not miss him the rotation will.
I for one if I am at Shea when he plays against us will stand and clap giving a Met of 5 years his due.
After that I will boo since he is playing for the other team.
Dave
Glavine said this yesterday: “As far as me personally and how my start went, I was disappointed. Embarrassed. In disbelief,” he said. “All of those things … It’s still hard to believe that our season ended the way it did”
If he would have said that AFTER the start, then I would have had totally different feelings about him and would have wished him well going back home.
Nice…
Cool.