Today is the first day teams can bid on a FA other than their own. The Mets haven’t made any offers, yet, but don’t expect that to continue. Omar Minaya will go fishing somewhere.
However, by most accounts this is a weak FA market, and there’s talk trades might be the way to go. But, the Mets don’t have a lot of chips, and those they have must be spent on pitching.
The Mets’ three best outfield prospects are Lastings Milledge, Carlos Gomez and Fernando Martinez. Their three best pitching prospects are Mike Pelfrey, Phil Humber and Kevin Mulvey.
Of the six, Martinez could have the highest ceiling, but he’s also the farthest away. Are any of these guys untouchable to you? Who might get the Mets the most right now?
Post your thoughts then vote in the poll.
11 Comments
Untouchable….none but Milledge kinda because you do need to fill RF, and he is only one ready.
Who do you get…. Only first class guys. If you’re picking up avg talent don’t bother. Let them all develop.
To me, its just another year of Milledge here and Milledge there. I don’t think anyone will be moved unless its for someone like Orlando Hudson.
I wouldn’t mind trading Milledge, as he seems to have the best status. Gomez seems to fit better, at least in my mind, into the team dynamic. Milledge is brash, which I think the Mets kind of need, but he seems to be a marked man around these parts.
The truth is none of these guys is untouchable, but I would not trade F-Mart because his value is down since he was injured, and I also would not trade Pelfry I would put him in the bullpen that would make him a better and cheaper solution than any free agent available.
Sloppy in regard to Newhan, Omar fixed this problem in season by getting Anderson. On F-Mart you are right about CF they should just move him to LF for 2008.
On Bradford his 2007 season was lousy you need to look past the ERA and look at his other numbers.
INNINGS Hits BB WHIP
2006 62 59 13 1.161 (close to career best )
2007 64 2/3 77 16 1.438
Bottom line is in 2 2/3 more innings he gave up 18 more hits and 3 more walks and look at his WHIP.
Please stop saying he had a good year for Baltimore.
RIght now I would not trade Humber because he has the most unknown value to me, since he came of Tommy John surgery last season, and then came on strong towards the end. If he can’t start the season with the Mets, I think he will do a very capable job once he gets called upon to replace an injured starter. I would trade any of the outfielders because we have the other two, along with Beltran for four(?) more years. Mulvey and Pelfrey will likely be traded smartly for fair value if they are, but Pelfrey hasn’t been too impressive; put him in the bullpen for now. If Reyes was still a prospect, I would say him. :)
LOL @ the addition of Newhan to the poll, although it would be more funny if he was actually still property of the team.
I would put the order of getting the most back as:
Milledge
FMart
Pelfrey
Gomez
Humber, Mulvey
I think the basic problem is that other teams have players that are considered to have higher potential. Therefore, I’d look to make a trade w/a team that is trying to dump some salary (ie., Marlins from a couple yrs ago). That way, you might be able to land someone who is going to help but it won’t cost you much.
The O’s are believed to be one of those teams (maybe they have an outside chance on Arod if they dump enugh salary and Angelos is crazy like Hicks). I heard that Roberts, Bradford and Hernandez could be had for possibly Milledge and some other prospect (maybe Mulvey). Roberts would be an excellent pickup.
Willis might be in the same situation in FL.
I’d like to say we can get some better players but I’ve got a feeling that it isn’t going to happen. So if the price is right and we can hold onto one of the OF and one of the pitchers, than maybe a Willis, a Roberts, Bradford, and Hernandez will be enough.
Again, alot of ifs…..but with the Muts unwilling to open the checkbook wider for high quality like Arod….this is the best you can hope for….
If Omar lets David Newhan get away, Jeff Wilpon will have Jim Duquette on speed dial.
Please Scott from Pelham don’t tell me what to say especially when I never said anything about Bradford’s 2007 number. Where do you find any post where I qupte numbers or Bradford’s good 2007. I don’t know what he did in 207 because I don’t follow the O’s. I don’t care what numbers you post; his numbers need to be compared to the numbers put up by Schoeneweis or Mota. No comparison. We don’t ned to have you look them up and print them. By losing Bradford Omar screwed up the pen in a way your raw numbers won’t show. Here’s why:
Bradford/Feliciano shared the 7th for the most part. And they became quite a team. With Bradford gone Willie tried to pair Feliciano up with Smith whose arm wasn’t ready for 162 game schedule. when he tired out willie had no one to pair up with Feliciano because Mota was crap and Omar dumped all the minor leaguers with potential so Feliciano became over used and faded down the stretch. Do your number show this? Also do your numbers show the extra difficulty Bradford had in the AL East facing Boston and NYY lineups 36 times, plus the fact that he was facing DHs vice PHs like Newhan! Plus the fact he pitched in a band box in 2007! I don’t think so. So your stats don’t tell a story and baseball is a story not just numbers. If it were pure numbers you’d all want A-Rod next year!
And Scott, Omar had to fix a problem because he was the lousy GM who didn’t re-sign Marlon Anderson after 2005. So he doesn’t get credit for fixing what he himself broke by bad negotiating. In 2007 he gives Marlon the 2 years he was too lousy a GM to give him in 2005.
PS: Will we ever see “David Newhan’s Dad” again?
Maybe he added David to the list!
slop,
your anger is directed to the wrong people. I blame the ownership for the poor performance of the team over the yrs b/c they have final say.
I’m sure Omar has wanted to bring in some other players or keep some but was told no. Omar is not perfect and the jury is still out on his skills to recognize young, unproven talent b/c besides Perez and Maine I have not seen young players who are difference makers traded for or brought up thru the system he can call his own.
But he has made a number of good moves to go along w/some bad ones. The only GM that I have seen recently who did not make mistakes was Schurholz who had an amazing ability to develop talent from w/in. Or steal guys (Maddux, Smoltz, Renteria come to mind).
Minaya is very good at finding the role player…Sanchez….he stole him. Chavez, Gotay, Anderson, Easely…all these guy were good pickups. Even Sosa was pretty decent. El duque and Maine….he got them for Julio and got rid of a bad Benson contract. Bradford..he got him for nothing…
Perez…you can say we could have got him for less but word was out on the street that we needed to replace Sanchez…I’m sure he wanted to keep Anderson but was told he could only give him 1 yr.
And for the way the Muts owners lack conviction to get that top talent guy (who will cost a high % of payroll for a long period), having someone who can find these types of guys is probably good. B/c the dopey fan base won’t wait for too many Wrights/reyes to mature thru the system.
These did not all happen by luck.
As far as last off season. If we get Dice K, which we would have if not for the Sox super high bid, I would even think you would have to say that he had an ok yr b/c DK would have easily put us over the top (into the playoffs) despite our BP problems.
And we probably wouldn’t even be that concerned about the SP for 08 b/c the rotation would be Pedro, DK, OP, JM, El duqe/other.
Scoop
Good post.
JD – from what i hear FMart is our top prospect. right now Lastings has the most value cause he is here , now.
JD – When are you gonna put back the recent comments section? its been gone a long time.
I might have to take back the nice things I said about Omar if he gets this Torrealba guy unless he is savings his trade chips to make a big move on a position player and/or picther.