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They are still thinking of activating Endy Chavez in the next few days. It could be Ruben Gotay to go down. Since Luis Castillo is sitting, this could be done when he’s ready to play.-JD
Uhm… they’re gonna send down a guy hitting .333 in a fairly large sample size? When the other guy at his position is talented-but-extremely-fragile?
Much as a Gotay booster as I am, dude can’t hit lefties yet and he’s probably never be a gold glover but… what more can a guy do?
if you had to put on a Carnac hat, who do you think is the opening day catcher in 2008?
Can’t believe I’m going to write this, but I think we’d be better off with Green at first right now…he at least gets a hit once in a while.
THey should just wait until September 1st or Endy… I mean what’s the point in demoting Gotay for 3 days? And then having to wait 2 weeks to bring him back up again because of the rules.
BTW, I really do not like Juan Pierre. What a useless baseball player. A guy who’s game is defined by what he can do when he’s on the basepaths who is never… ON BASE! Well on second though its not much Juane Pierre personally but what he stands for. This idea that he’s good.
Demote Lawrence after the start Monday, call up Endy for Tuesday’s game… have one of the call-ups start September 1st and hopefully Pedro’s there the next time you’re through the rotation.
They’ve played most of the summer without Endy Chavez. They can’t wait another week? I could see it if Chavez would play everyday, but he won’t.
But, if you’re going to make a call, the decision has to be based on this: Who will help you more over the next week, Chavez or Gotay?
You have Castillo, and if his knee acts up, there’s always Marlon Anderson.-JD
how about mr.36 rbi…who the hell needs a RF with 36 rbis
To Mike C.: I was thinking position player for position player, but admit your idea makes the most sense. That call-up start could go to Pelfrey or Humber, and one of them was going to replace Lawrence anyway. You’re right. Easy-peasy.-JD
To NYM: I don’t think so. If they were going to dump Green they would have done it earlier.-JD
Well, John, who’s the back-up shortstop if Gotay’s gone?
And aren’t we stretching it a bit to say that Marlon can play second base?
I mean, in theory, I could go skydiving. I’d be absolutely terrible at it, I’d soil myself and probably die in a panic but… technically… I could skydive.
Castillo’s knee is gonna act up. It’s acting up right now, according to all reports.
To Mike C.: Exactly. That’s why your idea about Lawrence is the best option. It accounts for a back-up shortstop, too. Once Lawrence pitches he’s done for five days.-JD
best part about the game so far el duques only got 65 pitches through 5..we could really use another 7 ining performance.
wow! big ups to the shea crowd there for delgado. mustve taken an ape off his back
The obvious question is: Why can’t he do that all the time? Or: Why can’t he do that half the time? If he did that a third of the time all would be well.-JD
Agree with NYM, I’m shocked….can’t remember a Shea crowd giving a player in a big slump a standing O in a big spot….not to mention that player coming through.
I think Delgado’s probably is that… he doesn’t have the batspeed (for whatever reason) right now to be a power-hitter… but he still has the knowledge and the reflexes and so on to hit for singles and doubles.
So when the dude’s swinging for power, he looks completely lost… but when he’s swinging for a single, he looks… while not like himself, he looks competent.
No more fence-swinging, I think, is the key.
To BH/NYM: That’s why I never understood the concept of booing a player who is struggling. If the player doesn’t hustle, then boo him all night. But, nobody can every say that about Delgado. He works, and works and works.
The game is so mental, that it makes sense to give positive reinforcement rather than tear him down.
And, as much as it disappoints the fans when Delgado makes an out, don’t you think it bothers him even more?-JD
“Demote Lawrence after the start Monday, call up Endy for TuesdayÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s gameÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ have one of the call-ups start September 1st and hopefully PedroÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s there the next time youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re through the rotation. Easy-peasy.” —Mike C.
I don’t understand this at all. Now, they decide to have somebody warm up in the bullpen? You knew his pitch count would go over 100 this inning. You also knew this was his last inning.
Why wait until LA hits two homers? They should have been up at the start of the inning, or at least after the first homer. OK, Duque got out of the inning. But, who is to say there couldn’t have been a third homer? Not good game management right there.-JD
Still trying to figure out how Gonzalez hit that out…I thought it was an easy flyout off the bat.
Lastings should go back down for a week just for that play….seriously WTH I’ve seen little leaguers take better routes.
aaron heilman to close game…..time for the tums. come on aaron lets make it quick and easy. who am i kidding its heilman…THREE OUTS THATS IT
How can you send down milledge. He is a much better outfielder than greene, and is hitting over .300 Green has been an everyday player all year and has 36 RBI, Please
Heilman is in because Wagner said he’s going through a dead arm period and needs the day to rest. But, I was thinking more Rolaids.-JD
wahoooo heilman closes it
I’m acutally glad to hear Wagner admit he has a dead arm. I was hoping that was the case…timing wise it made a lot of sense.
I’m a big fan of when a struggling player admits they’re going through a physical problem so that we don’t have to pull our hair out wondering what the issue is.
I say this less to you guys and girls and less to the internet at large and more to Carlos Delgado. I am only saying this to Carlos Delgado.
Good win, lets go Mets.
Mets win but their 12 consecutive game streak scoring 5 or more runs is over…
I wouldn’t activate Chavez until the 1st of September.
I agree JD that fans who boo players b/c they don’t hit or they’re in a slump is wrong. The only time they should be booed is if they don’t hustle.
They try and feel worse than the fans do because they’re not succeeding at their job.
Glad Delgado got that hit. On SNY they’ve been saying that HOJO has been working with Carlos D. to try and not pull the ball so much and instead go up the middle or to the opposite field. Also, he should try to be more of a singles/doubles hitter and not worry about hitting home runs. Those adjustments might help him. We’ll see.
Is Anderson Hernandez still up with the club or is he back down with New Orleans.
If Andy Hernandy were with the Mets, we wouldn’t be discussing how to get Chavez back on the roster.
Thanks…but could do without the sarcasm, Mike C.
When is Gomez coming back. Milledge doesn’t know how to play the outfield at all. I’m all for trading Milledge if Oakland offers up Blaton and Street. Milledge will never be a multiple all star I think. I see him as Rondell White or a Brian Jordan type.
Gomez was placed on the 60 Day DL…he’s probably done for this year.
Milledge just needs to work some more on his outfield fundamentals. I wouldn’t give up on him. He’s YOUNG. :-)
Milledge is only 22 years old.
Mike C…NOW I remember that Anderson Hernandez was sent to NO when they pulled the Jeff Conine trade.
I KNOW you’re as sharp as a tack…just go easy on us ‘slower’ guys..ROFL.
Gomez was put on the 60 day DL like Pedro was in order to open up a spot on the 40 man roster. Hopefully Gomez will be back in September because he has a lot more upside than Milledge. Milledge will be hitting .260 in a week since his BABIP is .357 and the league average is .290-.310.
Upside? I liked Gomez but as I recall he didn’t do much more at the plate then hit bunt singles or infield singles.
The only thing I’m not sure about is the status of the hand that he broke the bone in.
I think Milledge has matured and is continuing to grow and develop. You have to remember what it was like when a YOUNG Jose Reyes first made it to the big club? He wasn’t exactly like the guy we have today.
Baseball teams no longer have the luxury (or take it) of letting players develop in the Minors before they are brought up. Now a days, they have to complete their development in the bigs.
I actually didn’t mean it sarcastically, I just wanted to say it in an interesting way. No offense intended, Jeff.
Milledge is 22 and he started his career as a centrefielder, Other Mike, cut the dude some slack.
No problem Mike C.
Just waiting to see if JD has anything from the post game locker room.
Alou will be back in LF tomorrow and I think Randolph should play Green against Wells.
Gomez has more upside than Milledge? It’s way too early to say that. Milledge has played more games but so far has produced FAR more than Gomez did. Gomez may have more range and is better in the outfield but that just makes him an outfield version of Rey Ordonez. Both guys are really young and determining which has more upside at this stage is crazy.
I would love to see Milledge play a full season. For everyone with short term memory, the kid CARRIED the Mets after the break and did so hitting 8th. There is a reason
GM’s like Billy Beane have been adamant about including Milledge in any trade proposals. No one has demanded Gomez.
Just get rid of Mota.. we can go with 11 pitchers for a week
Am I imagining it or does it seem like the some of the fans are ready to CUT a player the minute they don’t hit or field well in a game or two?
The only player on this whole roster that I would get rid of is G. Mota. One, because I really think he’s nothing more than a mediocre pitcher and he’s proving that. With the exception of last year (with steroids) he’s been mostly awful: for Cleveland, LA etc.
NO matter what your day job is, would those who seem to be quick with the axe apply that same rule to yourself or others you work with if they didn’t perform at nearly perfectly?
Last year’s Mets team was awesome. So many of the players had almost career years. It can’t happen like that every season. We’ve manage to hold on to the lead this year because we’re still competitive (and one only has to look at how many of our players made it to the DL and how the other guys picked it up for them)and because the rest of the East is somewhat mediocre. I do believe that if we make it to the playoffs, the experience of going last year and not making it to the World Series will be a plus for these guys.
Having Conine (with two WS rings), Chavez, Castillo (with 2 Rings), M. Anderson and the rest of the pack will be a positive and could propel us into the W.Series-where we would hopefully win it.
A few things:
GOMEZ: I’m not expecting him back this year. Omar was talking about sometime in September. If so, then pinch-runner and late-inning defense. Don’t see him getting too many games.
MILLEDGE: That play in right shows he still has things to learn. Gomez does too, so you can’t say he wouldn’t have done the same.
GREEN: I’m not giving up on him. He’s on the downside of this career, but he still has his moments. And, I don’t see him as the defensive liability as some see.-JD
JD- One thing about Green to his credit is that seems to hit well in the clutch. He did so the other night.
He’s another valuable veteran to have come post-season.
Jeff: You’re not imagining anything. There are fans, and I’m not suggesting all of them, that have a short fuse and an itchy trigger finger.-JD
JD: What do you hear about how Castro is healing? Arthritis in the back has to be troublesome. Anything from the locker room?
Jeff makes a good point about the Mets. The major difference between our team last year and this year is the injuries. Our record is only 5 or 4 games worst than our record last year at this time, and it is most likely because of injuries to Pedro, Sanchez in the Bullpen (which worked out in our favor. Sorry for saying that but we got Perez), both of our catchers, Endy, and Alou. Just have to wonder if without these injures could the Mets have a better record than the Red Soxs.
We also have to give the Braves, Philles, and Nats credit of improving their teams, and also lets give Omar props in not signing Zito, he is having a less than mediocre season in San Fran. (ERA is like 4.74) and for that money he would have been a waste for our team now, trying to win a World Seris.
I think the Mets are fine for this year. There is very little competition in the Central, and honestly I would fear playing the Padres the most in the playoffs because of Chris Young and Jake Peavy.
One move the Mets need to make before Aug. 31 is to sign Bob Wickman who the Braves let go. I know he had some problems with people on the team or whatever, but I feel the Mets can deal with that until October. Put him in the set-up role for Wagner. He only blew 6 saves this year, and could fit on this team as a set-up man or even if god-forbid Wagner goes down and we need a closer. KNOCK ON WOOD.
Joe: You know who else I wouldn’t relish playing is Arizona. They’ve gotten tougher since we beat them up earlier this year.
I’m not so sure about Wickman…..but it’s been proven that when one team lets a guy go and another picks him up, that player plays like an MVP…just irony at its best. LOL
If a team DFA’s their closer while in a race for the playoffs then that says the guy is POISON. It might be entertainimg to have him pitch against the Braves but I say NO. No to poison.
What made the Met fans cheer Delgado BEFORE he got his hit??
Whether it was the scoreboard or smart fans drowning out the lousy fans, it was good to see, and hear for a change. Even the antiMet McCarver was impressed.
My case for Wickman is that if not using him as a set-up man he could add depth to the bullpen. He can easily replace the shaky pitching of Mota and Schoenweis.
As for Arizona, yeah they are competitors but when it comes down to the Padres or D-Backs I see two aces on the Padres, although the D-Backs have Webb, and the Padres have a great closer, and Maddux who has a ton of playoff experience, and their line-up is not the worst. Where as the D-Backs team does not have little to no experience in the playoffs, and many young players like Upton, Young, Jackson, Drew, Byrnes. Maybe in a few more years this team will win another world seris but I and skecptical just because of their youth.
In the first round of the playoffs I have to fear the Padres more because of their rotation Game 1- Peavy. Game 2- Young. Game 3- Maddux. and then start it over again. That is scary.
Tell me what you think JD.
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