This team frustrates me to no end! As a middle-aged, original Met fan, I cannot be the exuberant, blindly optimistic fan that sees no evil. I think this team has been extremely lucky, and has played poorly for a good stretch of the season; that makes every bad outing all the more obvious and painful. As usual, the offense stinks; when your entire offense consists of an error, a bunt, and a homer consecutively, that’s not the sign of anything to be particularly hopeful about. Willie? I can’t even go there! Can anyone honestly say they would be optimistic if the playoffs started tomorrow? I know they don’t, but what signs are there that things are going to improve? That said, luck is better than talent, and I’ll continue to hope that they’re luck holds.
NCMets
Jeez. People expect the Mets to be perfect every single game. That loss hurts, but its not like we are in 2nd place or 1 game up for that matter. We are 3 games up. How can you find the negative from Beltran coming back and jacking a 3 run shot? Wagner blew his 1st save in forever and I am willing to bet he comes back tonight and gets a 1-2-3 save. Go Mets.
NCMets
We are the best team in the NL and if the playoffs started tomorrow, we would make it to the WS. I mean who could beat us?
Gil
NCMets, you write as if the Mets making this year’s playoffs is a lock.
Hardly.
And when you ask who could possibly beat us in the playoffs if they started tomorrow? Well, if this season is any kind of barometer, here’s an answer:
1) Atlanta (8-4 against us)
2) San Diego (2-1 against us)
3) Philly (series is tied 6-6)
4) LA (4-3 against us)
The above .500 teams we’ve played well against have been the Cubs (5-2); Brewers (4-2) and D-Backs (4-3).
Argue if you like, that regular season play doesn’t matter in the playoffs. Fair enough. But do you honestly believe this year’s team has the cojones (testicular fortitude) to step it up in crunch time the way the ‘86 Mets did after NLCS Game 1 and the first two World Series games?
Like George, I’m frustrated as hell – and as a fan, embarrassed – that my team, when under adversity, has rarely risen to the occasion, dug deep and found a way to win. Yes, we’re in first place, but I agree with George that much of that has to do with the good fortune of us, Atlanta and Philadelphia simultaneously struggling earlier this summer.
The way we’re going, it may not be long until we’re in second or third place, fighting for a wild card spot.
Take last night. It wasn’t so much about any Billy Wagner “meltdown” as it was about our absolute inability to take advantage of scoring chances and beat up yet another marginally talented rookie pitcher who kept walking hitters and then not mounting any kind of attack against equally marginal releivers. Carlos Delgado left a man in scoring position in the first inning and then in the 8th, with runners on the corners with one out, a .340 hitter couldn’t so much as put the ball in play and a .308 hitter weakly grounded out.
Billy Wagner isn’t perfect. He was due to falter. If we cashed in that extra run in the bottom of the 8th, then after the top of the 9th, we may have been no worse than tied going to the bottom.
Hate them as I do, I respect – and fear – the Braves because they always find a way to elevate their game when they need to. The Phillies always find a way to fight through injuries, having a sorry bullpen and a shaky starting rotation and historically bad starts to seasons.
But what did we do the last time we had our fiercest competitor in our house, with a chance to drive them back?
Let them hang around and come up a day late and a dollar short.
Seth (Rochester)
I don’t know if anyone else feels this way, but Delgado is starting to remind me of George Foster. He looks like the lefty version at the the plate. I was very exciting when we traded for Foster and gave away next to nothing, but his numbers were not near what I expected.
Mike F
A last place team trailing 3-2 in the ninth and with the 7th, 8th, and 9th. batters coming to the plate find a way to tie and go ahead of a first place team and their super closer.This first place team comes up in the bottom of the 9th with their 2nd 3rd. and 4th. batters due up and can even get a man on 1st. base, against a mediocre closer.This has to tell you something about both teams, one team is hungry and playing for a win. while the other team has no heart and are just going through the motions.DEFINITELY NO WORLD SERIES FOR THIS TEAM.
JK
This Week in Baseball just did a 15-20 minute piece on Glavine and his 300th win which also included a little piece on Kevin James and Adam Sandler who filmed at Shea recently for an upcoming film. Pretty awesome show. What shocked me is that they didn’t even cover Bonds or A-Rod’s homeruns till the last few minutes of the show. I can only surmise the scant coverage of Bonds was an intentional snub, much like what Selig did. I don’t think it was a snub to A-Rod as his HR just wasn’t that historic. It was really small change compared to what Glavine and Bonds did. If Bonds’ achievement weren’t so tainted, I think his HR would have opened the show and gotten equal time with Glavine’s historic moment instead of being relegated to a few minutes at the end. Oh, and they even covered Aramis Ramiriz’ hot streak before getting to Bonds! There’s a moral lesson in there somewhere.
Mel
Yesterday’s game was a disgrace. Going thru the motions in not acceptable even on teams out of the race. Play like this and the Mets will be out of the race. The manager and the hitting coach(es) have nothing to do with a lack of fire. Big league players should be able to try hard all by themselves.
As for George Foster, there was a big difference between then and now. We had a real player to replace Foster in Mookie. Who’s gonna replace Delgado?? Green????
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This team frustrates me to no end! As a middle-aged, original Met fan, I cannot be the exuberant, blindly optimistic fan that sees no evil. I think this team has been extremely lucky, and has played poorly for a good stretch of the season; that makes every bad outing all the more obvious and painful. As usual, the offense stinks; when your entire offense consists of an error, a bunt, and a homer consecutively, that’s not the sign of anything to be particularly hopeful about. Willie? I can’t even go there! Can anyone honestly say they would be optimistic if the playoffs started tomorrow? I know they don’t, but what signs are there that things are going to improve? That said, luck is better than talent, and I’ll continue to hope that they’re luck holds.
Jeez. People expect the Mets to be perfect every single game. That loss hurts, but its not like we are in 2nd place or 1 game up for that matter. We are 3 games up. How can you find the negative from Beltran coming back and jacking a 3 run shot? Wagner blew his 1st save in forever and I am willing to bet he comes back tonight and gets a 1-2-3 save. Go Mets.
We are the best team in the NL and if the playoffs started tomorrow, we would make it to the WS. I mean who could beat us?
NCMets, you write as if the Mets making this year’s playoffs is a lock.
Hardly.
And when you ask who could possibly beat us in the playoffs if they started tomorrow? Well, if this season is any kind of barometer, here’s an answer:
1) Atlanta (8-4 against us)
2) San Diego (2-1 against us)
3) Philly (series is tied 6-6)
4) LA (4-3 against us)
The above .500 teams we’ve played well against have been the Cubs (5-2); Brewers (4-2) and D-Backs (4-3).
Argue if you like, that regular season play doesn’t matter in the playoffs. Fair enough. But do you honestly believe this year’s team has the cojones (testicular fortitude) to step it up in crunch time the way the ‘86 Mets did after NLCS Game 1 and the first two World Series games?
Like George, I’m frustrated as hell – and as a fan, embarrassed – that my team, when under adversity, has rarely risen to the occasion, dug deep and found a way to win. Yes, we’re in first place, but I agree with George that much of that has to do with the good fortune of us, Atlanta and Philadelphia simultaneously struggling earlier this summer.
The way we’re going, it may not be long until we’re in second or third place, fighting for a wild card spot.
Take last night. It wasn’t so much about any Billy Wagner “meltdown” as it was about our absolute inability to take advantage of scoring chances and beat up yet another marginally talented rookie pitcher who kept walking hitters and then not mounting any kind of attack against equally marginal releivers. Carlos Delgado left a man in scoring position in the first inning and then in the 8th, with runners on the corners with one out, a .340 hitter couldn’t so much as put the ball in play and a .308 hitter weakly grounded out.
Billy Wagner isn’t perfect. He was due to falter. If we cashed in that extra run in the bottom of the 8th, then after the top of the 9th, we may have been no worse than tied going to the bottom.
Hate them as I do, I respect – and fear – the Braves because they always find a way to elevate their game when they need to. The Phillies always find a way to fight through injuries, having a sorry bullpen and a shaky starting rotation and historically bad starts to seasons.
But what did we do the last time we had our fiercest competitor in our house, with a chance to drive them back?
Let them hang around and come up a day late and a dollar short.
I don’t know if anyone else feels this way, but Delgado is starting to remind me of George Foster. He looks like the lefty version at the the plate. I was very exciting when we traded for Foster and gave away next to nothing, but his numbers were not near what I expected.
A last place team trailing 3-2 in the ninth and with the 7th, 8th, and 9th. batters coming to the plate find a way to tie and go ahead of a first place team and their super closer.This first place team comes up in the bottom of the 9th with their 2nd 3rd. and 4th. batters due up and can even get a man on 1st. base, against a mediocre closer.This has to tell you something about both teams, one team is hungry and playing for a win. while the other team has no heart and are just going through the motions.DEFINITELY NO WORLD SERIES FOR THIS TEAM.
This Week in Baseball just did a 15-20 minute piece on Glavine and his 300th win which also included a little piece on Kevin James and Adam Sandler who filmed at Shea recently for an upcoming film. Pretty awesome show. What shocked me is that they didn’t even cover Bonds or A-Rod’s homeruns till the last few minutes of the show. I can only surmise the scant coverage of Bonds was an intentional snub, much like what Selig did. I don’t think it was a snub to A-Rod as his HR just wasn’t that historic. It was really small change compared to what Glavine and Bonds did. If Bonds’ achievement weren’t so tainted, I think his HR would have opened the show and gotten equal time with Glavine’s historic moment instead of being relegated to a few minutes at the end. Oh, and they even covered Aramis Ramiriz’ hot streak before getting to Bonds! There’s a moral lesson in there somewhere.
Yesterday’s game was a disgrace. Going thru the motions in not acceptable even on teams out of the race. Play like this and the Mets will be out of the race. The manager and the hitting coach(es) have nothing to do with a lack of fire. Big league players should be able to try hard all by themselves.
As for George Foster, there was a big difference between then and now. We had a real player to replace Foster in Mookie. Who’s gonna replace Delgado?? Green????