Mets Chat: Mark Buehrle edition
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If the Mets are to get White Sox lefty Mark Buehrle they must step up quickly because: a) Chicago is itching to deal after a lost weekend to the Cubs, and b) the competition will intensify and with it the asking price increase closer to the trade deadline.
Sox GM Ken Williams sure sounds like a man wanting to talk trade: “Change needs to happen and change is going to happen. When that happens, I don’t know.”
The Red Sox appear to be front-runners, and with Curt Schilling hurting, they could force the issue. Given that, the Mets can’t afford to sit back and read the market as they did over the winter. They must set the market.
The White Sox aren’t negotiating with free agent-to-be Buehrle. If the Mets want him they not only have to be prepared to give up players, but ready to sign Buehrle to an extension. If Chicago won’t offer a negotiating window, the Mets must pass because they don’t have the depth to make this a rental.
Should the Mets go for it now or wait? The clock is ticking.
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Buehrle hasn’t won a game against a .500 or better team all year. Granted he doesn’t get a lot of run support, but the better teams have really pounded him. I would never rule out getting him, but I think the cost will be too much. Omar isn’t stupid enough to sell the farm without an extension, and Buehrle is a self confessed mid-westerner who’s not the big city type. I wouldn’t feel confident that he’d sign here no matter how well things go, ala Mike Hampton…
I’d trade for him in a heartbeat, so long as they get him signed to an extension. He’d be a perfect fit as a second or third starter going into the next few seasons, when Glavine will be gone and Pedro will probably be a non-factor.
A rotation of (in no particular order) Pedro, Buehrle, Maine, Perez, and Pelfrey/Humber (whichever isn’t shipped out in the deal) looks pretty good for next year. And for the rest of this seasion, I’d feel much better with Beuhrle int he rotation and Sosa in the bullpen. It also allows the Mets, when Pedro comes back, to potentially use El Duque as a reliever.
Noooooooo. Buerle is NOT a number one or a two pitcher.If we trade our pospects its gotta be for a power pitcher who can dominate. Buerle is not a difference maker imo, and we dont need him. How much better is than Maine or Perez? Sure he has more experience and has won a WS ring, but I dont see him being that much better than what we have.
PLEASE PASS Omar!
What we need is bullpen help more than starting pitching. Who cares if the clock is ticking….we dont need him.
The pitcher we should trade for is in Houston, not Chicago.
That would be Roy Oswalt, who we came so close to landing last year.
He’s locked up through 2011.
Would a package of right-handed pitching prospects Mike Pelfrey and Kevin Mulvey get it done?
And the guy on the White Sox I want is Jermaine Dye. That’s where Lastings Milledge and a low level prospect come in.
Sign Dye to a two-year deal, then IF Alou EVER returns this year, start him in right field against lefthanders. Alou and Shawn Green are likely gone next year anyway.
Send Carlos Gomez to winter ball and tell him to get ready to play to win the starting left-field job in 2008.
I don’t see him as a good addition at the terms he wants. He is insisting on a 5 year deal….pass. He’s not an ace, and quite frankly that’s what we need. Yes it would be nice to get Glavine’s replacement now, but not at the terms he will cost us.
If Zambrano or Oswalt were in fact available I would certainly be more interested in those options.
If we are trading with Chicago, I think Garland is the bettwer option since he is signed through 2008. Vazquez would be a close second since Minaya is known to like him. Stay away from Buehrle. We likely won’t get a window anyway.
Statistically, Buehrle is very comparable to Zito. And if you were to willing to give Zito 5 years and $75 million, then you should probably want to fork out similar numbers for Buehrle.
From Omar’s standpoint, acquiring Buehrle would not only make up for his inability to land a front-end starter last winter, but it would fortify his team for the upcoming pennant race.
In terms of young talent, the Mets have three blue-chip outfield prospects and only two positions for them (assuming Beltran remains their centerfielder). Pitching-wise, I could see Mulvey’s development at AA playing a role, either as trade bait or allowing the organization to deal another pitching prospect (like, say, Humber).
I say Milledge and Humber—and a 72-hr window to negotiate. If they insist on Pelfrey (instead of Humber), then you have to add Jermaine Dye to the mix. If Omar is going to part with his top pitching prospect, he’s got to win this year.
Trade for Oswalt, and make a run at Zambrano in the off-season
Wouldn’t touch him….not worth what we would have to give up.
Omar is intelligent and isn’t pressing any panic buttons. He’ll let this one go.
No to Buehrle, and no to any rental, as a rental.
If Buehrle would commit to an extension, then we could consider it. Same with Zambrano or any other pitcher in his walk year.
We have to keep our chips for a true stopper, a hard throwing ace like Zambrano. We have enough soft-throwing number 2 and 2’s in our staff as it is
It looks like talks about Buherle have calmed down between the Mets and the White Sox. Chicago is NOT granting a 72 hour negotiation window so Buherle is stricktly a rent a pitcher.
However it now looks like we are targeting Jose Contreras. He is signed through 2009.
Personally, I would rather have Buherle than Contreras but we should NOT give up any top prospects for a guy who we will only get 2 months or so out of. If the deal is right and we can get a long-term deal made out than pull the trigger Omar.
As far as anyone else goes if we target anyone it should be Willis. The Marlins can’t afford him, Cabrea, and a new stadium and it looks like Dontrelle will be the one who leaves, so if their ever was a time to get him its now.
I don’t understand the interest in Contreras – and I certainly wouldn’t give up a top prospect for him.
Check Contreras’s numbers: Age: 35. Won-Loss: 5-8. ERA: 4.63. Hits: 97. Innings Pitched: 89. Strikeouts: 52. He’s not an upgrade over anyone we have right now and in fact has had a subpar year on a subpar team. NO WAY I want this guy.
I hope Minaya realizes that Buehrle is a thoroughly average major league starting pitcher. That definitely has value, especially if he is replacing a way below average pitcher in the rotation. I just hope if he does get him that he doesn’t overpay for him.
A guy with an ERA+ of 122 over his career is not a thoroughly average major league starting pitcher.
Buehrle has consistently been in the top 10 in categories like wins, ERA, innings pitched, WHIP, complete games, shutouts.
He’s not as good as Johan Santana, but he’d likely be the best starter in the Met rotation.
Trade Milledge, Pelfrey/Humber and the big first baseman in minors for Oswalt, and then make Zambrano your priority in the off season.
Benny, your’re right his numbers have been pretty good but PECOTA projects him as almost exactly average at this point in his career. I was surpised when I looked it up. That’s what I was referring to when I made that post. Not that PECOTA must be obeyed but it uncannily prescient.
I’d rather see the Braves give up Saltalamachia and Davies to get him. Then, when he leaves for St. Louis, we can laugh at the Braves for giving up the best catching prospect I’ve ever witnessed.