OK, there’s a week before the trade deadline. What do you do? Who do you trade and for whom?
I would trade for a big gun like zito if available and would include milledge in the deal of course.
However if a talent like Zito or equal is not available, I would hold off on making a trade. I say that because I believe the Mets in-house options have just as high an upside over anyone like Livan Hernandez.
Jonas … Agreed. Don’t think Livan Hernandez is much of an answer
Hi John – I’ll take a pass on this – whatever Omar wants to do is OK with me.
Call me crazy, but I sit tight. This is the best team in the NL right now, and has managed to extend its lead without Pedro. As Jonas says above, I don’t see anything realistic out there that’s markedly better than a combination of El Duque, Maine, Pelfrey and Bannister.
Oakland has a chance to win its division, so why would it trade Barry Zito? That just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
They have enough pitching to win the division, and don’t forget, in the playoffs they’ll go to a four-man rotation.
I’m inclined to think they’ll add in the bullpen if anywhere.
would the cubs deal guys like scott eyre or bobby howry? I’m only throwing those names out because I saw them pitch at the game tonight.
One guy that I find interesting is Gil Meche. Younger pitcher who throws two fastballs hard, which is the kind of guy you would want with finese pitchers like Glavine and now Pedro toping the rotation. His numbers this year while not great are actually better than his career averages, and a move to the senior circut can do nothing but help…
Seattle is said to want relief pitching, so perhaps some sort of pacakage including Royce Ring (who is pitching very well at AAA and is blocked by Felicano) and Bell could get the talks started.
I know I stated the other day that I would not make a move unless it was for a big gun, but a small move like this wouldn’t bother me if it only included lesser prospects like Ring. I would not include Heilman in this type of deal. I like Ring and would love for him to get a shot here, but I’d rather have some SP help after watching the last 3 games.
Outside of Zambrano, I would think about any Cub pitcher could be had right now. But those guys you mentioned aren’t any better than what the Mets have now.
Meche is an interesting possibility. He’s forgotten in all the buzz about Zito and Livan. He’s got a live arm, but he won’t come cheap. Royce Ring won’t get it done. The Mets will have to part with somebody highly regarded in their farm system to do this.
mets trade heilman,diaz and bannister to the mariners for gil meche. PEDRO,GLAVINE,MECHE,PELFREY,MAINE. Orlando goes to the bullpen. GET TRACHSEL OUTTA HERE!. With this the mets, for a change, will have 3 out of 5 pitchers under 28
Anon … I spoke with Lou Piniella today about Meche and with the Mariners only 3 1/2 back as of tonight in a very winnable AL West, he thinks Seattle will hold him to make a run. Mariners could even add.
The only “difference maker” out there seems to be Dontrelle Willis, and, if reports are correct, he really isn’t out there to be had unless the Marlins are blown away. That said, I’d have to at least make a run at him. Not only would it transform the Mets from a team built for the regular season into a team built for the playoffs, but it would also be huge going forward (i.e. Willis could anchor a young rotation in 2007 including some combination of Pelfrey, Humber, Maine and/or Zito—who may arrive via free agency in the offseason). And lets not forget that Gyroballer Daisuke Matsuzaka may be posted this offseason.
Considering that championships are won on pitching and corner outfielders are the most abundant commodity in baseball, including Milledge in a Willis deal would be entirely justifiable. Of course, that would just have to be the starting point. I’d also be willing to include Humber, Heilman, Owens & Guerra. Yup, that’s 5 for 1 and I’d still sleep well at night. And we’re talking 5 quality players here—no Victor Diaz’s or Michel Abreu’s. Substitute in Pelfrey (assuming he can be traded despite MLB rules on trading recently drafted players) for Humber, and I pull Guerra from the deal.
If either deal is made, the Mets still have Carlos Gomez, Pelfrey or Humber, Fernando Martinez, Francisco Pena, Mike Carp, John Neise and maybe Guerra.
Is Milledge, Pelfrey/Humber, Heilman, Owens, & Guerra a package that blows the Marlins away. I don’t know, but they’d have to think long and hard before saying no.
I agree with most of what you’re saying. You have to make a run at Willis, because you’re talking about a guy who could have a long term impact.
I would think the Marlins would jump at the package you’re suggesting. I think you’re offering a little too much. Two, most likely three players, would probably get this done. Five is too many.
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Well, if two or three gets this done—I say let’s do it. I’d almost be inclined to say, “pick any two players from Category A, and one from Category B for Dontrelle.” He’d be that much of a difference maker. Aside from my original on-field justifications, Dontrelle is the rare player that has huge off-the-field benefits too. If he performed well, he’d probably be “Gooden-esque” in terms of popularity and media exposure in NYC. It’s been a long time since we’ve seen anything like that, and the marketing implications are tremendous. So much so that if I’m Omar, I’m willing to eat a little crow and be criticized for overpaying. The Baseball Tonight pundits might give him a hard time, but the Wilpons will be patting him on the back as they drive past 90 foot Dontrelle Willis murals on the sides of buildings in Manhattan.
That said, it’s not going to happen. Of the names I’ve heard bandied about as somewhat realistic, Gil Meche seems like the most inspired option—if for no other reason than him giving an opposing playoff team a different look (i.e. not another soft-tosser). But, based on your conversations with Lou Pinella, it doesn’t sound too realisitic. If he is on the table, I’d center a package around Heilman.
Dontrelle in the Apple would be electric.
But, I don’t think the Marlins are going to deal him. If they were smart, instead of trading him they should lock him up long term. That would be a sign they are serious about competing.
A little bit less whining and moaning about not having a stadium and a little more commitment to winning and a few more people might show up.
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